Moses_FPS Posted January 7, 2016 $800 is plenty to build a solid machine that won't lag with two streams. I'll do some digging around. I'm just not sure how well the parts I pick will transfer over to pounds. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ https://pcpartpicker.com/ check the top right @@Jay that is a good budget, you are gonna have a great pc 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 7, 2016 @Moses I should have known pcpartpicker would have that option; never had to use it until now. Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 8, 2016 @@Jay Here you go buddy http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/gHKyGX Plenty of room to spare as well. Still need a case though; personal choice so I left it blank. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Jay Posted January 8, 2016 @@Jay Here you go buddy http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/gHKyGX Plenty of room to spare as well. Still need a case though; personal choice so I left it blank. Thank you . I should hopefully be ordering in the next few days, I'll post what I will be getting when I have it all ordered. I really appreciate everyone's help! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 11, 2016 Alright guys, I am looking for recommendations for a build that will be mainly focused on streaming to Twitch. I will not be looking to be playing games on this PC, ONLY Streaming my Xbox gameplay to Twitch. My budget is £500 ($730). @@ZerueLX11 and anyone else who know's their tech, any recommended builds are appreciated! Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post
Moses_FPS Posted January 11, 2016 Alright guys, I am looking for recommendations for a build that will be mainly focused on streaming to Twitch. I will not be looking to be playing games on this PC, ONLY Streaming my Xbox gameplay to Twitch. My budget is £500 ($730). @@ZerueLX11 and anyone else who know's their tech, any recommended builds are appreciated! Thank you. do you have a capture card or do you need one? (just trying to see if we need to figure in the price or not) Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 11, 2016 do you have a capture card or do you need one? (just trying to see if we need to figure in the price or not) already have a solid cap card Quote Share this post Link to post
Nokt Posted January 11, 2016 You shouldn't need anything too powerful to stream. It's more dependant on Internet. Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 11, 2016 @Batchford Do you have a daily desktop already? Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 11, 2016 Alright guys, I am looking for recommendations for a build that will be mainly focused on streaming to Twitch. I will not be looking to be playing games on this PC, ONLY Streaming my Xbox gameplay to Twitch. My budget is £500 ($730). @@ZerueLX11 and anyone else who know's their tech, any recommended builds are appreciated! Thank you. I'll start working on it, Im telling you now though you're gonna have a good CPU. Add a GPU and you're set. You can add a GPU in the future, since you wanna stream Halo for now. You shouldn't need anything too powerful to stream. It's more dependant on Internet. Yeah its dependent on Internet but Twitch can only stream at a max bitrate 3500kbps. HD Youtube videos have a bitrate of 10,000kbps+ so if you want good quality you're gonna need a damn good CPU to perform complex calculations, to reduce video compression artifacts. The more you can optimize with only using 3500kbps the better it looks, but it takes a lot of CPU power to optimize. Examples Here is a Twtich Quality Video Here is a raw capture And here my two hour video on content creation lol Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 11, 2016 Alright guys, I am looking for recommendations for a build that will be mainly focused on streaming to Twitch. I will not be looking to be playing games on this PC, ONLY Streaming my Xbox gameplay to Twitch. My budget is £500 ($730). @@ZerueLX11 and anyone else who know's their tech, any recommended builds are appreciated! Thank you. @@Batchford Here you go, how does this look? Newegg International Shipping Service Important Shipping Information Cooler Master N200 - Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case with Front 240mm Radiator Support and Ventilated Front Panel IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £34.99 WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX - OEM IN STOCK £38.99 Cooler Master V650 - Compact 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular PSU (6th Generation Skylake Compatible) IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £69.99 G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C10D-16GAB IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £45.99 ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard IN STOCK LIMIT 20 £55.99 Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Quad-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1150 84W BX80646I74790 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 IN STOCK £213.99 Subtotal: £459.94 Newegg Marketplace Direct Delivery Service Important Shipping Information Cooler Master HYPER 103 Computer CPU Cooler 92mm Fan Heatpipes Heatsink - Intel Socket LGA2011 / 2011-3 /1366/1156/1155/1150/775, ... Color: Silver Sold by HQmade IN STOCK £41.08 £29.99 Save: 27.00% Subtotal: £29.99 Grand Total:* £489.93 Quote Share this post Link to post
Nokt Posted January 11, 2016 Yeah its dependent on Internet but Twitch can only stream at a max bitrate 3500kbps. HD Youtube videos have a bitrate of 10,000kbps+ so if you want good quality you're gonna need a damn good CPU to perform complex calculations, to reduce video compression artifacts. The more you can optimize with only using 3500kbps the better it looks, but it takes a lot of CPU power to optimize. Don't get me wrong. If you have the money for a better CPU definitely do it. It will make other tasks like video editing become a lot faster and more efficient. But if you don't have good internet you aren't even going to hit 3500kbps which is a larger quality hit than how well you can polish it after the fact. Streaming isn't CPU intensive when using an external capture card, even when its an internal capture card anything above a second gen i5 will be fine. I don't think the monetary value in polishing 3500kbps is worth it when you are working with a budget, but since he is just doing this for streaming I don't really see a reason not to go all out on the CPU. Also there are workarounds for recording and streaming at the same time so you don't have to deal with the 3500kbps. Unless you are wanting the reactions/voices/overlay/etc Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 12, 2016 Don't get me wrong. If you have the money for a better CPU definitely do it. It will make other tasks like video editing become a lot faster and more efficient. But if you don't have good internet you aren't even going to hit 3500kbps which is a larger quality hit than how well you can polish it after the fact. Streaming isn't CPU intensive when using an external capture card, even when its an internal capture card anything above a second gen i5 will be fine. I don't think the monetary value in polishing 3500kbps is worth it when you are working with a budget, but since he is just doing this for streaming I don't really see a reason not to go all out on the CPU. Also there are workarounds for recording and streaming at the same time so you don't have to deal with the 3500kbps. Unless you are wanting the reactions/voices/overlay/etc Even with an external Capture card you're still using the CPU to encode the video. Some capture cards do have built in H.264 hardware encoders but they are not nearly strong enough for 1080p 60fps. Most capture cards just grab the data and send it to a software program like OBS where it uses a H.264 software encoder , using the CPU, to do the streaming work. But overall the Internet speed would be the biggest bottleneck here, if Batchford has some 1337 internet, then might as well go all out. Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 12, 2016 You shouldn't need anything too powerful to stream. It's more dependant on Internet. Luckily I have godlike internet so this should not be a problem. @@Batchford Here you go, how does this look? Newegg International Shipping Service Important Shipping Information Cooler Master N200 - Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case with Front 240mm Radiator Support and Ventilated Front Panel IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £34.99 WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD10EZEX - OEM IN STOCK £38.99 Cooler Master V650 - Compact 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular PSU (6th Generation Skylake Compatible) IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £69.99 G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C10D-16GAB IN STOCK LIMIT 5 £45.99 ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard IN STOCK LIMIT 20 £55.99 Intel Core i7-4790 Haswell Quad-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1150 84W BX80646I74790 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 IN STOCK £213.99 Subtotal: £459.94 Newegg Marketplace Direct Delivery Service Important Shipping Information Cooler Master HYPER 103 Computer CPU Cooler 92mm Fan Heatpipes Heatsink - Intel Socket LGA2011 / 2011-3 /1366/1156/1155/1150/775, ... Color: Silver Sold by HQmade IN STOCK £41.08 £29.99 Save: 27.00% Subtotal: £29.99 Grand Total:* £489.93 I got told that you need at least a GPU to stream. Is that not true? Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 12, 2016 GPU is for 3D rendering CPU is for rendering frames from the GPU aka encoding the video. Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 12, 2016 GPU is for 3D rendering CPU is for rendering frames from the GPU aka encoding the video. Ah, so I won't need one then. Last question, won't I need a card so that I can use WiFi? I might just get another cord to use for the PC, but that involves running it through my house. Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 12, 2016 Luckily I have godlike internet so this should not be a problem. I got told that you need at least a GPU to stream. Is that not true? Well the i7 CPU has integrated graphics, dont worry about a GPU. Also streaming is CPU based if you choose x264( using CPU ). Also the Integrated graphics support DirectX so it should work regardless. EDIT: USE THE CORD FOR STREAMINGGGGG PLEASEEEEEE Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 12, 2016 Well the i7 CPU has integrated graphics, dont worry about a GPU. Also streaming is CPU based if you choose x264( using CPU ). Also the Integrated graphics support DirectX so it should work regardless. EDIT: USE THE CORD FOR STREAMINGGGGG PLEASEEEEEE Alright the Cord shall be bought. We shall be balling in 60FPS boys. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 12, 2016 Alright the Cord shall be bought. We shall be balling in 60FPS boys. What capture card do you have? Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 12, 2016 What capture card do you have? an external Avermedia 60FPS card. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 12, 2016 an external Avermedia 60FPS card. Ah the 1080p 60fps ones that use USB 3.0? Nice! Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 12, 2016 Ah, so I won't need one then. Last question, won't I need a card so that I can use WiFi? I might just get another cord to use for the PC, but that involves running it through my house. Hardwire that bitch, always. And you also don't need an i7 for a streaming machine. You could easily get a high-end i3 or low end i5 and be fine. Don't compare yourself to other streams who make a 100k a year and get gnarly computer components donated to them. Quote Share this post Link to post
Batchford Posted January 12, 2016 Hardwire that bitch, always. And you also don't need an i7 for a streaming machine. You could easily get a high-end i3 or low end i5 and be fine. Don't compare yourself to other streams who make a 100k a year and get gnarly computer components donated to them. I might get a slightly cheaper higher end i5 so I can actually buy a monitor so I can use the PC... edit: http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302 would this be a good card for 60FPS? or should I stick with the i7 @@Synyster @@ZerueLX11 Quote Share this post Link to post
Synyster Posted January 12, 2016 Yeah, that CPU should be totally fine. Quote Share this post Link to post
ZerueLX11 Posted January 12, 2016 I might get a slightly cheaper higher end i5 so I can actually buy a monitor so I can use the PC... edit: http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302 would this be a good card for 60FPS? or should I stick with the i7 @@Synyster @@ZerueLX11 Dont you already have a monitor? Quote Share this post Link to post