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Tales of Lockdown's Broken Spawns

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disregarding this entire post...if h2a only checks the horizontal plane like it did in halo3, then that would explain why closed ramp would be a major spawn since standing in library or br3 would not affect it.

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disregarding this entire post...if h2a only checks the horizontal plane like it did in halo3, then that would explain why closed ramp would be a major spawn since standing in library or br3 would not affect it.

 

But it wouldn't explain why it's literally the only spawn point you can spawn in if you die with no influence on the map (read: jump off as the only player in the game)

 

 

(Edit: Also, the spawn in question is on the same plane as Library -- it's the one just outside the door toward closed ramp, not the one up the ramp.)

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But it wouldn't explain why it's literally the only spawn point you can spawn in if you die with no influence on the map (read: jump off as the only player in the game)

 

 

(Edit: Also, the spawn in question is on the same plane as Library -- it's the one just outside the door toward closed ramp, not the one up the ramp.)

hence why i said disregarding all of that :p

 

but @theedit. then nvm then!

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Interesting discovery 

 

Would it be wise to get rid of all top spawns and just keep spawns at sword, br1, bottom mid, bottom lift, elbow, and s1? In my head I feel like it would organize the gameplay better. I may be wrong tho.

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You have a lot of time on your hands.

The game is broken as shit, what else is he gonna do? Lol.

 

That said, It's too early in the morning for me to follow everything you did. But yes, the spawn's on that map are fucked. 

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Ok is this spawn system based off of Halo 4 spawn system or no? Like does looking at a spawn have a huge impact like in Halo 4? It is off the same engine so this would not surprise me at all

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Ok is this spawn system based off of Halo 4 spawn system or no? Like does looking at a spawn have a huge impact like in Halo 4? It is off the same engine so this would not surprise me at all

That wasn't only in Halo 4 but I believe that logic looking at something blocking the spawn worked for Halo Reach as well and everyone loved Reach and Halo 4...

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That wasn't only in Halo 4 but I believe that logic looking at something blocking the spawn worked for Halo Reach as well and everyone loved Reach and Halo 4...

It was so much heavier in H4 and everyone complained about it but I just wanted to know if H2A spawn system in general is similar to H4?

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1) suicides don't follow the same spawn logic normal deaths do

 

2) removing all spawn zones from the map and putting a single anti-zone produces bizarre results. try putting a single large respawn zone on the map and then the anti-zone INSIDE of the spawn zone. as far as i understand this is how they are intended to be used.

 

maybe suicides are simply bugged and just picking the first indexed spawn on the map. try taking that spawnpoint on a vacation to fantastic lands and see if you keep spawning on top of it.

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Long story short, you can edit the spawns in Forge, but you really can't.

One more thing that's broken by design.

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So, today I deleted literally every spawn point on the map, every spawn zone, and every objective piece in Forge Basic Editing.  I then placed the spawns onto the map one spawn at a time and tested where I would spawn each time.  (Please, keep in mind this is upon dying with no influence on the map; meaning, there are no enemies, no lines of sight, no deaths within map boundaries)

 

1 spawn placed: Always spawn there.
2 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
3 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
4 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
5 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
6 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn. Note to self: Keep track of which spawn
7 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn. is which next time, dumbass.
8 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
9 spawns placed: Always spawn at 9th placed spawn.
10 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
11 spawns placed: Always spawn at 11th placed spawn.
12 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
13 spawns placed: Always spawn at 13th placed spawn.
14 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
15 spawns placed: Always spawn at 15th placed spawn.
16 spawns placed: Always spawn at 1st placed spawn.
17 spawns placed: Always spawn at 1st placed spawn.
18 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
19 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
20 spawns placed: Always spawn at 3rd placed spawn.
21 spawns placed: Always spawn at 3rd placed spawn.
22 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
23 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
24 spawns placed: Always spawn at 5th placed spawn.
25 spawns placed: Always spawn at 5th placed spawn.
26 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
27 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
28 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn.
29 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
30 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn. (same as 28, I think this is 11th)
31 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn. (same as 28/30)
32 spawns placed: Always spawn at ??th placed spawn. (I think this is 13th)
33 spawns placed: Always spawn at ??th placed spawn. (Same as 32)
34 spawns placed: I have no idea what spawn this is anymore.  Time to give up!
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I have a (somewhat) related video contribution for this thread that's kinda funny. I'll post it tonight when I get home.

I don't know why but I'm incredibly eager to see this.

 

(I had an experience where after my entire team quit except me and there were guys on S2 and S3, and a guy top blue lift, I spawned elbow like 4 times in a row)

 

Hilarious Lockdown spawn videos make me happy and sad. 

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I don't know why but I'm incredibly eager to see this.

 

(I had an experience where after my entire team quit except me and there were guys on S2 and S3, and a guy top blue lift, I spawned elbow like 4 times in a row)

 

Hilarious Lockdown spawn videos make me happy and sad. 

 

You should be... ;)

 

Nah but seriously, when the game spawns a guy right in front of you while you're scoped in, looking for the Triple (even if there wasn't one), who then keeps getting in your way, being a distraction... you can see I wasn't too happy lol.

 

xboxdvr.com/iDrummerAVA/af627b3a-f76c-4452-8339-c27eb40e041c

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I don't know what came over me lol. I just snapped...

You did it so efficiently, it was like Jackie Chan or something. 

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So, today I deleted literally every spawn point on the map, every spawn zone, and every objective piece in Forge Basic Editing.  I then placed the spawns onto the map one spawn at a time and tested where I would spawn each time.  (Please, keep in mind this is upon dying with no influence on the map; meaning, there are no enemies, no lines of sight, no deaths within map boundaries)

 

1 spawn placed: Always spawn there.
2 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
3 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
4 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
5 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
6 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn. Note to self: Keep track of which spawn
7 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn. is which next time, dumbass.
8 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
9 spawns placed: Always spawn at 9th placed spawn.
10 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
11 spawns placed: Always spawn at 11th placed spawn.
12 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
13 spawns placed: Always spawn at 13th placed spawn.
14 spawns placed: Always spawn at 7th placed spawn.
15 spawns placed: Always spawn at 15th placed spawn.
16 spawns placed: Always spawn at 1st placed spawn.
17 spawns placed: Always spawn at 1st placed spawn.
18 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
19 spawns placed: Always spawn at 2nd placed spawn.
20 spawns placed: Always spawn at 3rd placed spawn.
21 spawns placed: Always spawn at 3rd placed spawn.
22 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
23 spawns placed: Always spawn at 4th placed spawn.
24 spawns placed: Always spawn at 5th placed spawn.
25 spawns placed: Always spawn at 5th placed spawn.
26 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
27 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
28 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn.
29 spawns placed: Always spawn at 6th placed spawn.
30 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn. (same as 28, I think this is 11th)
31 spawns placed: Always spawn at ?th placed spawn. (same as 28/30)
32 spawns placed: Always spawn at ??th placed spawn. (I think this is 13th)
33 spawns placed: Always spawn at ??th placed spawn. (Same as 32)
34 spawns placed: I have no idea what spawn this is anymore.  Time to give up!

 

Any chance of a video?

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Play a different game.

A lot of people bought the XB1 solely for the purpose of playing MCC. If I didn't get some games included in a deal from a friend of a friend to get my XB1, MCC would be the only game that I own. 

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A lot of people bought the XB1 solely for the purpose of playing MCC. If I didn't get some games included in a deal from a friend of a friend to get my XB1, MCC would be the only game that I own. 

So you do have other games to play?

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