Jump to content
CyReN

Halo Championship Series Season 1 Teams, Seeds, and Discussion‏

Recommended Posts

Considering LoL had 27 million viewers at the world championships I think halos goal should be a little higher than the level of popularity we had during the mlg days. Obviously you have to start small which means reaching that point where we're back to where we were would be huge and exciting, I think the "end goal" should be to take it to heights it's never seen

 

LoL also has tens of millions of currently active players worldwide.

 

Comparatively, Halo 3 only SOLD 14.5 million copies.

 

Looking at LoL to gauge Halo's potential is like looking through binoculars to watch porn on your neighbor's TV.

  • Upvote (+1) 7

Share this post


Link to post

LoL also has tens of millions of currently active players worldwide.

 

Comparatively, Halo 3 only SOLD 14.5 million copies.

 

Looking at LoL to gauge Halo's potential is like looking through binoculars to watch porn on your neighbor's TV.

Exactly, comparing Halo to League is complete nonsense. 

 

I think we should be striving more towards where cod is currently at but even then it would be a stretch. The casual side of halo would have to grow tremendously in order to be on par with cod in viewers.  

  • Upvote (+1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

Agreed with what is being said. I just think that we would be happy/content with the fact if we were back to how it was in the ol MLG days. if it grows more, fantastic! We just want some relevance again.

Share this post


Link to post

On the topic of teams, I'm not sure how Str8 Rippin is going to do this weekend. Can't say I've seen them practice very much, although they've done well when they have played. We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. Don't know what to expect from them this time around.

 

Totally agree with you. Haven't seen much from them since last event. What teams have actually been practicing hard? 

Share this post


Link to post

We can have multiple layers of goals. We can say that it's our current goal to have the HCS become as big as MLG Halo was and once that's accomplished say that we'd adopt the deeper goal of growing the game beyond that level into something that's even bigger and self-sustainable. We can move towards a smaller goal so long as we make sure that the way we do so doesn't prevent us from reaching a larger goal should we be fortunate enough to have a chance to work for it.

 

I think that for the moment, getting to MLG-levels of hype and viewership is a solid goal, given that there are fewer people playing Halo nowadays than there were back then. Once we get there we shouldn't be content, so we should try to grow in a way that allows expansion further and doesn't just limit ourselves, but we should take it all one step at a time.

Share this post


Link to post

A quote from Quinn in a Twitch chat

366142caecc2ed8003b5ea6ebff1ebe6.png

 

To be honest, Halo during the MLG days was about 1000000x bigger than it is right now. Almost every event was sold out, I mean shit Halo was on ESPN via MLG. It just peaked too early. Streaming wasnt even a thing, I mean if you think back YouTube wasnt even really a thing, Halo had Mythica for a good amount of time.

 

 

I think with the correct game, and developer support (HCS) Halo has the potential to be bigger than what it was sure. I get what he is saying but I feel like he is downplaying how much MLG actually grew Halo before its downfall.

  • Upvote (+1) 4

Share this post


Link to post

To be honest, Halo during the MLG days was about 1000000x bigger than it is right now. Almost every event was sold out, I mean shit Halo was on ESPN via MLG. It just peaked too early. Streaming wasnt even a thing, I mean if you think back YouTube wasnt even really a thing, Halo had Mythica for a good amount of time.

 

 

I think with the correct game, and developer support (HCS) Halo has the potential to be bigger than what it was sure. I get what he is saying but I feel like he is downplaying how much MLG actually grew Halo before its downfall.

 

 

My problem with his comment is the irreverence he shows for MLG and MLG Halo.

 

He, 343, and HCS should be humbled to even be mentioned in the context of MLG competitive Halo. Based on the product(s) they have put on display in the past two years, it will be a literal fucking miracle if they ever achieve the polish and success of the MLG days.

  • Upvote (+1) 1
  • Downvote (-1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

To be honest, Halo during the MLG days was about 1000000x bigger than it is right now. Almost every event was sold out, I mean shit Halo was on ESPN via MLG. It just peaked too early. Streaming wasnt even a thing, I mean if you think back YouTube wasnt even really a thing, Halo had Mythica for a good amount of time.

 

 

I think with the correct game, and developer support (HCS) Halo has the potential to be bigger than what it was sure. I get what he is saying but I feel like he is downplaying how much MLG actually grew Halo before its downfall.

 

I think all of us would be ecstatic if Halo even reached half of its peak during MLG days. I still can't believe a game like CS:GO can get so many viewers. 

  • Upvote (+1) 1
  • Downvote (-1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

LoL also has tens of millions of currently active players worldwide.

 

Comparatively, Halo 3 only SOLD 14.5 million copies.

 

Looking at LoL to gauge Halo's potential is like looking through binoculars to watch porn on your neighbor's TV.

I wasn't gauging them or being comparative. I'm saying esports has reached all new heights since halo disappeared. We should be reaching to go higher than we've ever reached. Obviously no console game can compare to a freemium PC game in terms of users or likely viewers. Doesn't mean we should short ourselves in our goals.

Share this post


Link to post

I think all of us would be ecstatic if Halo even reached half of its peak during MLG days. I still can't believe a game like CS:GO can get so many viewers. 

Its not too hard to believe. They have an active developer for an extremely popular franchise that actually cares and iterates on the game due to actual community interaction/sentiment while being cheap and playable on most any PC. Their community support, developer and platform are leagues beyond anything Halo has ever seen while being significantly more accessible via hardware and price. Same thing for LoL

  • Upvote (+1) 2

Share this post


Link to post

I think all of us would be ecstatic if Halo even reached half of its peak during MLG days. I still can't believe a game like CS:GO can get so many viewers.

CS is the most popular fps of all time

 

Why are you surprised lol?

 

I'm surprised anyone watches CoD

 

Plus you can actually make money playing CS, via youtube and twitch and stuff. No one makes money playing halo, maybe naded and ninja earn 35-50k, maybe

  • Upvote (+1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

Idk if anyone else saw this on twitter, but it looks like Blaze, Arkanum, contra, and Pred are not able to go under the CLS name because one of them didn't sign the contract in time.

 

Predator went to Crowd pleasers. While randa replaced him and now Arkanum, Blaze, contra and randa are going under the name Noble Black.

  • Upvote (+1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

CS is the most popular fps of all time

 

Why are you surprised lol?

 

I'm surprised anyone watches CoD

 

Plus you can actually make money playing CS, via youtube and twitch and stuff. No one makes money playing halo, maybe naded and ninja earn 35-50k, maybe

 

I'm surprised because the actual playerbase of CS isn't more than Halo when you look at peak numbers of Halo 2/3/Reach. It just seems to have a high viewership per player playing. So it makes you wonder whether Halo isn't spectator friendly (I think it is okay, considering our popularity earlier on), or if it is because there aren't as many players (probably a factor), or if it is because the gameplay has gotten worse (a big factor IMO). 

Share this post


Link to post

I'm surprised because the actual playerbase of CS isn't more than Halo when you look at peak numbers of Halo 2/3/Reach. It just seems to have a high viewership per player playing. So it makes you wonder whether Halo isn't spectator friendly (I think it is okay, considering our popularity earlier on), or if it is because there aren't as many players (probably a factor), or if it is because the gameplay has gotten worse (a big factor IMO). 

 

Halo is hard to stream by it's nature. Console gamers are generally more casual then PC gamers. It's the difference between having a hardcore player base audience vs a casual one. 

  • Upvote (+1) 2

Share this post


Link to post

My problem with his comment is the irreverence he shows for MLG and MLG Halo.

 

He, 343, and HCS should be humbled to even be mentioned in the context of MLG competitive Halo. Based on the product(s) they have put on display in the past two years, it will be a literal fucking miracle if they ever achieve the polish and success of the MLG days.

 

You have got to be kidding me. The games were what made "MLG Competitive Halo" great, not MLG. Sure we can all be grateful for MLG holding those events, but MLG doesn't deserve any kind of special respect for having successful events for great competitive games. 

 

Anyways, the whole point you were trying to make is ridiculous regardless. Wanting Halo to be bigger than it ever has been is not "irreverence" towards MLG. MLG just happens to be the measuring point for the biggest point in Halo popularity, if you think he was trying to take a shot at MLG, I don't know what to tell you.

  • Upvote (+1) 2
  • Downvote (-1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

I'm surprised because the actual playerbase of CS isn't more than Halo when you look at peak numbers of Halo 2/3/Reach. It just seems to have a high viewership per player playing. So it makes you wonder whether Halo isn't spectator friendly (I think it is okay, considering our popularity earlier on), or if it is because there aren't as many players (probably a factor), or if it is because the gameplay has gotten worse (a big factor IMO). 

Halo isn't really spectator friendly. You don't get a lot of info from one players screen (Enemy positions, weapon spawns, who has what power weapons, etc), CS gives the most info out to spectators though. Also, Halo wasn't popular at all when it came to streams (most we had was like 50k for a pre release event), when it came to players playing online yeah I'll agree it used to be good. But now games are a lot bigger now and no one really cares for Halo anymore compared to games like Dota, LoL, CSGO, etc

  • Upvote (+1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

Does anyone believe Halo can be popular as a competitive esport without MLG? I just think it was so closely linked, and it helped have an easy brand name that was willing to go all-in on a game. Even with HCS, it doesn't seem like it's their priority.

Share this post


Link to post

Any team signed with a major organization gets paid. (most of the time) @ 

 

EG, CLG, etc.

  • Upvote (+1) 2

Share this post


Link to post

CS GO has become a massive game that is continuing to grow for a multitude of reasons. It's very easy to see how it can be such a huge and continually growing game.

 

- Excellent, continued, constant developer support from Valve

-  In-game spectator mode that allows you to watch any POV you want during a major tournament - giving you basically all the control YOU want 

- CSGO Lounge bets allowing you to bet your skins and win - which can make a seemingly small match between 2 unknown teams feel like the final of a major tournament to the person betting

- Easy to follow gameplay with a plethora of excellent commentators and commentator combinations who break down the game to the T - making it easy for all to follow the action along

- Through the roof in game promotion of major tournaments 

- Team stickers and weapon skin cases contributing directly to the teams and major tournaments (CS GO major tournaments = directly backed by Valve with a $250,000 prize purse raised through the purchase of event stickers and eSports weapon cases)

 

The list goes on but these are the major points. It is very, very easy to see why CS GO became such a massive competitive title in 2014, and while it will grow even more in 2015. 

  • Upvote (+1) 7

Share this post


Link to post

Its not too hard to believe. They have an active developer for an extremely popular franchise that actually cares and iterates on the game due to actual community interaction/sentiment while being cheap and playable on most any PC. Their community support, developer and platform are leagues beyond anything Halo has ever seen while being significantly more accessible via hardware and price. Same thing for LoL

 

Good god I love this post.

 

If you look at it from a non-biased standpoint Halo is handicapped beyond belief. Any shooter you try to compare it to doesn't have anywhere near the same amount of success. In its own right, Halo is the greatest competitive game of its nature. 

 

In before Noble Black plays Crowd Pleasers. Whoever wins will get top 8.

  • Upvote (+1) 1

Share this post


Link to post

You have got to be kidding me. The games were what made "MLG Competitive Halo" great, not MLG. Sure we can all be grateful for MLG holding those events, but MLG doesn't deserve any kind of special respect for having successful events for great competitive games. 

 

Anyways, the whole point you were trying to make is ridiculous regardless. Wanting Halo to be bigger than it ever has been is not "irreverence" towards MLG. MLG just happens to be the measuring point for the biggest point in Halo popularity, if you think he was trying to take a shot at MLG, I don't know what to tell you.

 

 

Where did you learn how to read?

 

I didn't say he was taking a shot at MLG. I'm implying that he thinks he can catapult Halo to new heights of popularity without respecting or even understanding the level of popularity the franchise had competitively before 343 helped destroy it.

 

They don't get it. Apparently you don't either.

Share this post


Link to post

Where did you learn how to read?

 

I didn't say he was taking a shot at MLG. I'm implying that he thinks he can catapult Halo to new heights of popularity without respecting or even understanding the level of popularity the franchise had competitively before 343 helped destroy it.

 

They don't get it. Apparently you don't either.

 

Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.

Share this post


Link to post
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

×

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.