Halo 5: Guardians Discussion

[arglactable]

This isn't just a 343 problem. The weird obsession with videogames as graphics tech demos has been making games worse for years. So many resources blown on utterly useless visual bloat. System resources, project budgets, hardware research and development, all for features that in no way actually make games better. Meanwhile, real features like AI, destructibility, simulation detail, dynamic/procedural audio systems? Basically anything that doesn't look impressive in a screen shot? Game developers in general were pushing the envelope on those fronts with vastly more ambition 20 years ago.

 

Just look at this:

 

Awwww, man. We're running it at 60fps? What a challenge. I guess that means that we will have to have SOME restraint, much to our dismay. It's basically an entire talk about how their art team needed to keep their dicks in their pants to squeak by that performance target. Not that H2A actually runs at a consistent 60fps and let's not talk about split-screen framerates. I don't even blame Certain Affinity (though it irks me that VIDEOGAME artists so often don't seem to care at all about clarity or performance). This approach is the industry standard.

 

Performance? Visual clarity? Appealing art style? lol. Not Next Gen enough. Add more clutter and post-processing and label everything important with waypoints and bright outlines.

 

Honestly, I find the original Quake more visually appealing than the majority of modern triple-A games. I would say the same of Halo CE. They just look better, so long as "better" doesn't mean "NEXT GEN photo-realistic 4K 24fps GRAPHIX."

[Gobias]

H3 looks better than H5.

To be fair, Halo 3 looks better than most console shooters these days. It’s about time we lower our standards.

[VinnyMendoza]

Nah. It's pretty obvious 343 has the edge from a tech standpoint. It's not really arguable so you might as well quit trying. Bungie couldn't even get 720p out of their 360 games. 343 did it in one game and it ended up being the best looking game on the console to boot. Bungie was garbage on that end. But yea, ya'll keep acting like H5 doesn't look good just so you can satisfy your hive-mind mentality.

 

Yeah that company that made one of the greatest, pretty polished FPS games of all time in like 10 months has no technical skill.

 

That company that basically revolutionized online gaming has no technical skill.

 

The company that had stable 4 player split screen and 4 player online co-op, some of the most sprawling busy environments ever in a campaign and introduced revolutionary theatre and a built in intuitive map-maker has no technical skill.

 

 

Then 343 comes along and builds off their work very late in the Xbox 360's life and did a good job there sure...

 

But then went ahead and released this

 

 

And then released Halo 5 with an engine that is constantly unstable with physics and aiming seemingly dependent on framerate. And no split screen.

 

Oh and let's not forget Warzone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEs3Muaq-kk

[Snipe Three]

343 the technical masterminds behind some recent amazing additions such as pressing start fixing laggy aim and repeatedly pressing start causing your character to skate like you're lagging along with their magnum opus the MCC. Definitely 1th in my book. Can't wait to see the stellar workmanship of Halo 6.

[RedBlueGiG]

Never have I played a game in which if you take a two day break from you become garbage as is the case with Halo 5. When I was grinding for Orlando I really had a lot of fun on the game. Only by playing every day can you become in tune with the Spirit of the Servers on Halo 5. If not, you spend most of your time flicking the thumbstick around wondering why your reticle isn't making the same corresponding movements it was making a couple days prior. It feels foreign each time I turn on the Xbox. I hate the game because of this and want to stop playing but I still have a competitive Halo itch that I can't satisfy with MCC.

Exactly i struggled with this mentally with halo 5 i'd get tired out from two weeks straight of it and then not play it for a minute. Once i felt comfortable playing again and went back, I'd get fucked on until I stopped being relaxed and having fun, and started sweating to compensate for every offensive zapping you no matter who's using it

[Gingerscotch]

Hey guys...I haven't really played or watched anything since the second world's. Just got on and everything feels different. Can anyone summarize what's changed, please?

[xSociety]

Hey guys...I haven't really played or watched anything since the second world's. Just got on and everything feels different. Can anyone summarize what's changed, please?

Feels different how? Like the aiming still sucks beyond belief, and you just forgot, or what?

[Gingerscotch]

Feels different how? Like the aiming still sucks beyond belief, and you just forgot, or what?

After playing for a few hours, this is 100% the case. It’s amazing how awful this game feels if you haven’t been desensitized to it by playing it in a long time

[EagleBurn]

After playing for a few hours, this is 100% the case. It’s amazing how awful this game feels if you haven’t been desensitized to it by playing it in a long time

 

I had the same experince about a year ago. Friends and I wanted to paly something different one night after weeks of Overwatch so we decided on a few matches of H5. It was actually comical on how bad the aiming was. It was like watching a low-profit teenager horror flick with your friends just so you can make fun of it together.

[QuietMan]

Game pass does not work for Win 10 PC games.  Guess I won't be giving Sea of Thieves a try.  Oh well Farcry 5 looks more fun anyway.  

[MultiLockOn]

Game pass does not work for Win 10 PC games. Guess I won't be giving Sea of Thieves a try. Oh well Farcry 5 looks more fun anyway.

That'll be changing soon gamepass is Microsoft's new direction for Xbox going forward so you can expect a lot of support for it both in terms of multiplat support and new games.

[Aych See Ess]

Game pass does not work for Win 10 PC games. Guess I won't be giving Sea of Thieves a try. Oh well Farcry 5 looks more fun anyway.

You're missing out, the beta was fun as hell

[Hard Way]

I finally picked up Just Cause 3 when it was 11 bucks recently. Holy hell this game is fun.

[GunRanger]

With game pass, do you still have to download + install, or is it streamed?

[Moa]

Game pass does not work for Win 10 PC games.  Guess I won't be giving Sea of Thieves a try.  Oh well Farcry 5 looks more fun anyway.

Uhh, pretty sure it does? 

 

It's a Play Anywhere game so you should get it on PC too.

 

With game pass, do you still have to download + install, or is it streamed?

Download and install.

[Mhunterjr]

Game pass does not work for Win 10 PC games. Guess I won't be giving Sea of Thieves a try. Oh well Farcry 5 looks more fun anyway.

This is confusing people.

 

Gamepass is a service for Xbox games. But if the game is Play Anywhere you’ll have a license to play it on Window as well.

[QuietMan]

This is confusing people.

 

Gamepass is a service for Xbox games. But if the game is Play Anywhere you’ll have a license to play it on Window as well.

ah cool. I just saw in the FAQ it was only supported on console so i thought that meant no "play anywhere"

 

[Larry Sizemore]

 

The first time something in r/halo has legitimately cracked me up.

[Mhunterjr]

ah cool. I just saw in the FAQ it was only supported on console so i thought that meant no "play anywhere"

 

yeah you aren't the first and won't be the last. they just don't want pc users thinking a gamepass subscription will get them access to all of the 100+ games on the service. they need to word it better.

[QuietMan]

yeah you aren't the first and won't be the last. they just don't want pc users thinking a gamepass subscription will get them access to all of the 100+ games on the service. they need to word it better.

Just did the two week trial.  I guess it should be downloadable tomorrow?  I wonder if they have preloading working on the windows store? Is xbox live gold a requirment?

[Infinity]

I finally picked up Just Cause 3 when it was 11 bucks recently. Holy hell this game is fun.

 

Is this sale over?

[Moa]

Just did the two week trial.  I guess it should be downloadable tomorrow?  I wonder if they have preloading working on the windows store? Is xbox live gold a requirment?

If you switch your region to New Zealand, you can play it right now with Game Pass. Same goes for PC and Xbox. 

 

I dunno how Gold membership works for PC Play Anywhere stuff.

[Hard Way]

This sale's over?

fuck if i know. it was under the square enix sale on the games tab on the dashboard.

[MultiLockOn]

 

The first time something in r/halo has legitimately cracked me up.

AHAHAHAHAAHA I made that and had my friend xandrith post it because I didn't want any flack for dogging on 343 anymore lol. You're welcome

[OG Nick]

AHAHAHAHAAHA I made that and had my friend xandrith post it because I didn't want any flack for dogging on 343 anymore lol. You're welcome

Aren't you admitting to it now?