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Let's not forget that this all stemmed from one guy saying Evolved was objectively better in every way based off a few games of 2v2 and little to no experience with Halo 5.

 

I don't think anyone disagrees that H5 has balance issues, or that a more effective strafe benefits the game. It's just annoying that Evolved is touted as the savior of competitive Halo when it is not and doesn't even try to be. It's a niche game mode with the goal of imitating classic Halo games without the massive sacrifices to skill that other classic modes have made (such as h2 BR starts).

 

IMO, it makes some improvements but also takes away some things that I believe add more to the game than they take away. I also think that it's disappointing that no one has taken it upon themselves to make an "H5 Pro-mod" that attempts to maximize the skill-gap of H5 while leaving the Spartan Abilities intact.

 

In the end, we should all be more like Hard Way and stop being assholes to eachother because person A likes a mechanic that person B dislikes.

While Halo 5 offers some of the best options we've ever had in a Halo game, I don't think anyone wants to make a "Pro mod" for a couple of reasons:

-Nobody would play them. Matchmaking kids just want to stat pad, tryhard kids are either trying to get a rank or compete, Forge kids want to get their maps into matchmaking, etc. There would be a dedicated niche of a dozen or so people on the forums, and top names in the community would check them out for a single lobby and then go back to default.

-The people who hate Halo 5 really hate Halo 5 and don't want to salvage what makes it unique.

-Everyone has a different idea of what would be the most skillful and/or healthy for the game.

 

Nondefault settings worked fine in previous games because there were tournaments and playlists. Halo 5 doesn't support true LAN and the matchmaking team has been adverse to adding any nonstandard maps except for a few specific cases.

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Also I'm laughing my ass off at r/Halo atm.

 

Trying to say that Top 30 on the Xbox Live most played is popular and is good for Xbox's Flagship title.

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I shit you not, this was the response to cooper saying that #23 is not popular.

"just checked your comment history...yep as i suspected Halo hater....and I'm sure you are a little noob that tried to play halo 5 but got destroyed lol....GTFO son hahaha" - Halo Redditor.

 

Fuck 343.

Fuck the Community.

Fuck this game.

 

Just fuck it, theres no point anymore. If thats the reaction r/Halo has to genuine criticism, and 343 frequent it, Halo as we know it is fucked.

What's even more funny id that I've played against Cooper and from my experience he's pretty good.

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Also I'm laughing my ass off at r/Halo atm.

 

Trying to say that Top 30 on the Xbox Live most played is popular and is good for Xbox's Flagship title.

05onfire1_xp-master768-v2.jpg

 

I shit you not, this was the response to cooper saying that #23 is not popular.

"just checked your comment history...yep as i suspected Halo hater....and I'm sure you are a little noob that tried to play halo 5 but got destroyed lol....GTFO son hahaha" - Halo Redditor.

 

Fuck 343.

Fuck the Community.

Fuck this game.

 

Just fuck it, theres no point anymore. If thats the reaction r/Halo has to genuine criticism, and 343 frequent it, Halo as we know it is fucked.

Reddit, Waypoint, NeoGAF.

 

All cesspools of 343 slurplejerking scrubs who no one here could carry out of bronze tier.

 

Best of just laughing at them.

 

It is truly hilarious when these kids try to claim if you don't like halo it must be because you suck when in reality you could shit on them from a great height blind folded.

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Also I'm laughing my ass off at r/Halo atm.

 

Trying to say that Top 30 on the Xbox Live most played is popular and is good for Xbox's Flagship title.

05onfire1_xp-master768-v2.jpg

 

I shit you not, this was the response to cooper saying that #23 is not popular.

"just checked your comment history...yep as i suspected Halo hater....and I'm sure you are a little noob that tried to play halo 5 but got destroyed lol....GTFO son hahaha" - Halo Redditor.

 

Fuck 343.

Fuck the Community.

Fuck this game.

 

Just fuck it, theres no point anymore. If thats the reaction r/Halo has to genuine criticism, and 343 frequent it, Halo as we know it is fucked.

Reddit needs some sort of warning some like porn sites have one:

 

 

I hereby declare that I am massive a 343 shill and will not to criticise any post-Bungie Halo product. I have "played" every Halo ever produced and will not hasitate to claim that, based on that extensive experience with every Halo game ever created, the newest, 343-developed instalment of Halo is the best Halo ever created.

I am aware that not participating in the collective 343-circle jerk will justify any hate, flame or defamation directed at me.

 

- ENTER -

 

Leave

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While Halo 5 offers some of the best options we've ever had in a Halo game, I don't think anyone wants to make a "Pro mod" for a couple of reasons:

-Nobody would play them. Matchmaking kids just want to stat pad, tryhard kids are either trying to get a rank or compete, Forge kids want to get their maps into matchmaking, etc. There would be a dedicated niche of a dozen or so people on the forums, and top names in the community would check them out for a single lobby and then go back to default.

-The people who hate Halo 5 really hate Halo 5 and don't want to salvage what makes it unique.

-Everyone has a different idea of what would be the most skillful and/or healthy for the game.

 

Nondefault settings worked fine in previous games because there were tournaments and playlists. Halo 5 doesn't support true LAN and the matchmaking team has been adverse to adding any nonstandard maps except for a few specific cases.

There's actually an absurd amount of forgers now who are really fed up with the vanilla gameplay, I'm sure you've seen it.

 

Goat and Martian have been scripting a quake Lite gametype with no health recharge + health pick ups. Lots of them forge for evolved just to play among their own groups.

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Goat and Martian have been scripting a quake Lite gametype with no health recharge + health pick ups. Lots of them forge for evolved just to play among their own groups.

Forgers are actually making Evolved scaled maps? That's lit.
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There's actually an absurd amount of forgers now who are really fed up with the vanilla gameplay, I'm sure you've seen it.

 

Goat and Martian have been scripting a quake Lite gametype with no health recharge + health pick ups. Lots of them forge for evolved just to play among their own groups.

Admittedly, I haven't been talking with many forgers outside of Forgehub's WAYWO and the Discord.

If people are able to get some traction on nondefault settings, all the power to them. I'm still disappointed there hasn't really been any efforts to script some new competitive objective gametypes.

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Admittedly, I haven't been talking with many forgers outside of Forgehub's WAYWO and the Discord.

If people are able to get some traction on nondefault settings, all the power to them. I'm still disappointed there hasn't really been any efforts to script some new competitive objective gametypes.

Honestly the only community that has the power to actually push non vanilla gameplay is Beyond. And they don't want to, so

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Let's not forget that this all stemmed from one guy saying Evolved was objectively better in every way based off a few games of 2v2 and little to no experience with Halo 5.

 

I don't think anyone disagrees that H5 has balance issues, or that a more effective strafe benefits the game. It's just annoying that Evolved is touted as the savior of competitive Halo when it is not and doesn't even try to be. It's a niche game mode with the goal of imitating classic Halo games without the massive sacrifices to skill that other classic modes have made (such as h2 BR starts).

 

IMO, it makes some improvements but also takes away some things that I believe add more to the game than they take away. I also think that it's disappointing that no one has taken it upon themselves to make an "H5 Pro-mod" that attempts to maximize the skill-gap of H5 while leaving the Spartan Abilities intact.

 

In the end, we should all be more like Hard Way and stop being assholes to eachother because person A likes a mechanic that person B dislikes.

Didn't you at one point want to leave the movement the same but try the evolved weapon balance? How'd that turn out.

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Just heard that phil spencer said that "no new FPS Halo this year." RIP H3A. Welp time to break out xlink kai again there's no way im playing H5 for another year +.   

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Just heard that phil spencer said that "no new FPS Halo this year." RIP H3A. Welp time to break out xlink kai again there's no way im playing H5 for another year +.   

"no NEW FPS Halo this year", can you spot the loophole there?

I'm not saying H3A is happening, actually, i'm rather skeptical but the wording is somewhat suspicious, why not just say "no Halo FPS this year"?

It just seems like something MS would do these days, deny H3A because mostly everybody (well, exept Moa) expects that game, announce it and act as if they did something spectacularly surprising

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"no NEW FPS Halo this year", can you spot the loophole there?

I'm not saying H3A is happening, actually, i'm rather skeptical but the wording is somewhat suspicious, why not just say "no Halo FPS this year"?

It just seems like something MS would do these days, deny H3A because mostly everybody (well, exept Moa) expects that game, announce it and act as if they did something spectacularly surprising

Man, there it is. Confirmed.,

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Just heard that phil spencer said that "no new FPS Halo this year." RIP H3A. Welp time to break out xlink kai again there's no way im playing H5 for another year +.

H3 isnot "new" .

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:apg:

The dream is dead.

Pretty sure it was my subconscious trying to give hope to the dream. There's only so many warzone games a guy can play...  :mj:

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Didn't you at one point want to leave the movement the same but try the evolved weapon balance? How'd that turn out.

 

Never was able to get a lobby for it.

 

Also wanted to have no-radar, and was open to adjusting shield/health recharge if escapability was still seen as an issue.

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