Halo 5: Guardians Discussion

[TheIcePrincess]

Ok 343, Riptide has been out long enough that you can decrease the weighting. Same with overgrowth.

 

Why does Truth and Coliseum have the lowest weighting? Best maps in the game IMO.

Do they have lowered weighting? If anything, I feel that Eden has the lowest. Haven't played on it at all, but have played on the former two listed maps multiple times.

[xSociety]

Okay? Not trying to come off as rude, but in the 4-5 months I've owned the game, I've held the same complaints and criticisms towards the title. Nothing has changed between then, and now based on who I play with. I don't generally "care" about what studies are done, mainly because I didn't get special treatment, or give any. The man's just a friend. Being my friend, or I being his still wouldn't change what I personally feel about the game. That's how it works in my head, which, mind you, studies can't account for.

Studies can account for that stuff, it's exactly what I'm talking about. Okay, I believe you haven't been swayed at all from playing with an employee of the game, I'll give you that. Good on you. 

 

Just know how it can work sometimes. The person will have absolutely no doubt in their mind how they feel about something and complete confidence in themselves about it, yet, in reality they have been swayed. Politicians use this knowledge all the time for their benefit and it's proven with statistics and data. You do believe people can be in denial about something right? They will tell you they're not in denial about it, that's the whole point. 

 

Edit: I've been in denial about stuff before, but at least I'm aware it's possible and I try to actively avoid that type of thinking. Coming out of what amounts to being brainwashed was the most amazing experience I've ever had.   

[Mr Grim]

Studies can account for that stuff, it's exactly what I'm talking about. Okay, I believe you haven't been swayed at all from playing with an employee of the game, I'll give you that. Good on you.

 

Just know how it can work sometimes. The person will have absolutely no doubt in their mind how they feel about something and complete confidence in themselves about it, yet, in reality they have been swayed. Politicians use this knowledge all the time for their benefit and it's proven with statistics and data. You do believe people can be in denial about something right? They will tell you they're not in denial about it, that's the whole point.

 

this is true for things like personality as well, people you surround yourself with tend to rub off on you in certain ways, some more than other, but it happens that's just how we're wired as organisms.

[wow]

Meh, bullshit. I play with him regularly and still hold my criticisms and shit towards the game. Not gonna let who I play with sway that.

I concur, Tyler definitely knows that.

[TheIcePrincess]

Studies can account for that stuff, it's exactly what I'm talking about. Okay, I believe you haven't been swayed at all from playing with an employee of the game, I'll give you that. Good on you. 

 

Just know how it can work sometimes. The person will have absolutely no doubt in their mind how they feel about something and complete confidence in themselves about it, yet, in reality they have been swayed. Politicians use this knowledge all the time for their benefit and it's proven with statistics and data. You do believe people can be in denial about something right? They will tell you they're not in denial about it, that's the whole point. 

I can believe they're in denial. I see it a lot in multiple places. I was just saying that overall, with a true certainty, I haven't been swayed, nor am I in denial. Also, when I referred to being accounted for, I solely meant it in the way that I wasn't literally accounted for. I'm outside of that equation, and I'd much rather be officially "tested"/"screened" for it, before being lumped in with the others whom are accounted with it.

[iEclipseeee]

Damn guys, that was a fun ass day to read in this thread.

Agreed with a lot of things Lemon said, disagreed a couple things.

Heytred's had a lot of good points but some bad points.

Thanks guys for keeping me entertained for the last 6 hours :flames:

[Shekkles]

Coffin...

 

 

 

 

Funeral?

 

Is this a "Halo 5 is dead" joke?

 

Coffin/Coughin'

 

GET IT. 

[TheIcePrincess]

I concur, Tyler definitely knows that.

I don't know if that was sarcasm/passive aggressiveness or not, but  in the case it was, I can assure you, he definitely does, after my multiple paragraph rants in game. 

 

Edit: Hate making them though. Hate being negative/cynical. It's just not fun, nor good for me.

[cold4ball]

It really is frustrating to watch Halo devolve (see what I did there) everyday with each new release. To say that "classic halo" can't be defined is ludicrous. It's an arena precision shooter with a strong skillful utility weapon that will prevail in most situations and an emphasis on teamwork and awareness. For these reasons radar isn't on for competitive play and autos are very situational. 343 is petty and misleading from everything I've experienced with them. I had already abandoned the series before Reach so my experience with them is MCC, which they somehow messed up in one of the biggest showings of incompetency I have ever seen, and Halo 5. Note that I didn't even touch H4 which should be an advantage for them.

 

I keep telling myself every day that they will learn from their mistakes and cater to the hardcore fans first by sticking to this game's clearly definable roots instead of throwing a bunch of copy and patserino'd "modern" mechanics against the wall and calling it Halo. The older fans experienced the height of Halo and are also in a demographic with generally more disposable income, yet we are constantly ignored or pandered to in a patronizing way from the geniuses at 343. We have sprint, punishment for not using ads, call of duty autos, and awful maps. We needed a pistol that's a 3sk at LAUNCH or a damage boost for competitive settings (which wouldn't even work because of the disaster of a sandbox that is the storm, smg, and to a lesser extent the ar.) I am not of the opinion that every weapon should be able to be used lassie-faire and pop someone's shields.

 

Sure I've enjoyed watching the old pros play this game due to their skills which are great to watch if it's not a crouching radar dependent smg/storm battle. Everyone is wondering why there is so much new blood in this game? Because the skill gap is razor thin and the young bloods don't have any qualms using autos at all times. The current path 343 is on will have those using skill weapons being the smucks in future games. Not that any of what we say matters to 343 when it comes to development. The will drive the car into the lake because the GPS told them to a la Michael Scott. It is what it is. Just wanted to post to let Cursed Lemon know that there are people who agree with what he is saying although most of us may not be as vocal as our favorite series dies a quick death. Suffice to say I will not buy Halo 6. 

[Edain]

The same people who moved on from it the second a new game came out? Those people? Yea, lets keep catering to them.

According to Josh Halo 5 has the highest retention rate of any Halo.

 

Maybe he's only counting the Halo's after Halo 4. lmao

[iEclipseeee]

According to Josh Halo 5 has the highest retention rate of any Halo.

 

Maybe he's only counting the Halo's after Halo 4. lmao

To be fair, he did say the highest of all other than H3 but yes, that statement was little bit too extreme to believe.

[xSociety]

According to Josh Halo 5 has the highest retention rate of any Halo.

 

Maybe he's only counting the Halo's after Halo 4. lmao

"Let me just adjust these parameters real quick....and....done. See, Halo 5 is the most popular Halo game ever made!"

[xSociety]

and no everyone else who engaged in attacking wasn't? You're faulting lemon because he believes what he says, by that logic everyone everywhere is a cunt.

And to think people have been banned for calling someone dense... 

[Mr Grim]

I don't know if you're a cunt, but apparently you're a dick or something.

something like that...

[xSociety]

Everyone here has an opinion about something that is so strong that they believe anyone else having the opposite opinion is wrong. Literally everyone does, don't say that isn't true because you'd be lying to yourself. 

[GoldenboyFTW]

Guys, it's a video game. Chill the hell out.

 

If you like it, play it. If you don't, move on. It's really as simple as that.

[xSociety]

Guys, it's a video game. Chill the hell out.

 

If you like it, play it. If you don't, move on. It's really as simple as that.

With an attitude like that, imagine what Halo 5 would have been like if no one complained about Halo 4. 

 

I don't accept the "If you don't like America than you can just get out" argument. 

[Exidrion]

because rational discussion of viewpoints is for pin heads. No one should push for what they think is best for the series, we should all just live with one prevailing opinion, no free thought for anyone.

 

This doesn't answer anything I asked, and it's certainly not rational discussion.

 

EDIT: Thanks @@xSociety. It still seems like an exercise in futility to me though.

[TeeJaY]

Guys, it's a video game. Chill the hell out.

 

If you like it, play it. If you don't, move on. It's really as simple as that.

But this is Halo. We don't play what we like. We play what we don't like.

[Lambo]

 

This thread right now lol. Even Goldenboy joining in... whaaaaat?

[Brad Pitt]

I just don't get it though.

 

Do you guys REALLY think you'll have an effect on Halo 6/7 etc? Why do you keep pushing for "classic" Halo when it won't ever happen? @@Brad Pitt @@Cursed Lemon @@xSociety

 

Please explain it to me because it seems so useless to repeat. What exactly are you hoping for?

Do I think I'll have an affect on Halo 6/7? No, 343 cannot be reasoned with. Either we need Bungie back or a new dev. I keep pushing for "classic" Halo because that's the Halo that works. That's the Halo the sells big and that's the Halo that maintains a high population for years. Fun, competitive, and addictive gameplay. Game breaking gimmicks like armor/Spartan abilities cannot and will not ever work for Halo and the franchises nose diving sales and population numbers are proof of that. It's either go back to the original formula or this franchise is done.

 

[aPK]

Ok so apparently two posts within the span of less than six hours that give a fair warning against that type of behavior wasn't clear enough.

 

Please for the love of bubu dubu, either stop with this nonsense or take it to PMs.

[GoldenboyFTW]

With an attitude like that, imagine what Halo 5 would have been like if no one complained about Halo 4.

 

I don't accept the "If you don't like America than you can just get out" argument.

This isn't American politics it's Halo, a video game created for enjoyment. I was talking to Mudkip on Twitter about this as well and I get people don't like the game but I enjoy the game quite a bit. I work a 9-5 job and travel constantly yet I come home every day to play the game and get better at it. Does that make me part of the problem? I love to play Halo 5.

 

I competed in one of the most competitive video games ever created on console (Shadowrun) and I will never have that experience again but you don't see me trying to push that agenda on to others. The argument goes both ways to be honest. Do things that you enjoy to do and if Halo 5 is not that then cut the cord and move on to something that makes you happy. Unless arguing on the internet makes you happy in which case you're helpless. Alternatively, saying Halo 5 is perfect (don't think anyone has but whatevs) is foolish as well. The game has flaws but even the best games have flaws and that cannot be helped. Nothing in life is perfect.

 

So I stand by my original statement. Just chill the hell out and move on.

[tibborn]

 

This thread right now lol. Even Goldenboy joining in... whaaaaat?

Team Beyond: Civil War

[xSociety]

Ok so apparently two posts within the span of less than six hours that give a fair warning against that type of behavior wasn't clear enough.

 

Please for the love of bubu dubu, either stop with this nonsense or take it to PMs.

Are you declaring a state of Dubu in this thread? If that's the case we will behave and Bubu our Dubus elsewhere. 

 

Goodnight everyone. Have sweet 3sk dreams.