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This weapon tuning update seems out of our Reach, almost like it's Emile away. Hopefully it comes before Jun.

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MW2 was out for less than 2 months in 2009. It was at the top for those 2 months. You specifically said H3 topped MW2. That did not happen. My whole point here is that MW2, Blops then MW3 dominated not only the shooter genre, not only video games, but media entertainment. Halo's popularity began to decline with the release of MW2 thru 2010. It did not START at Reach. It started with cod. Why Halo fans are so loathed to admit this is  :beyond: me. 343 sure as hell did a lot of work to put Halo in the position it is in today. BUT cod was the beginning of the decline, H3 2010 numbers are not close to 2009 numbers.

Think about it though, Halo 3 had already been out for 2 years by the time those games took over. Halo's popularity wasn't declining, people were just ready for a new game. Had Bungie released a Halo 3.5 in 2010 instead of Reach, with better graphics, physics, net coding, great maps, ranking system, and faster base movement, Halo would have continued to dominate COD and every other game on the planet.

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Ghost Ultra has to be the worst modded vehicle in Halo I've experienced, oh but I should probably hold my tongue, because 343 may add an impossibly broken Mantis variant months later...

Mantis that shoots exploding chaingun bullets with heavy armor. Calling it now.

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I just played a game of Slayer on The Rig that made me want to fucking break this game. Their entire team was camping corners with autos, made me miss Halo 4 for fucks sake. 

 

Is CE Laquatus on these forums? He was one of them. Squeaks too, those names seem familiar. 

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This is not true. MW2 topped XBL for nov and dec of 2009. Then topped XBL for most of 2010 till Blops came out, then IT topped xbl with MW2 in 2nd.

 

 http://majornelson.com/2010/

 

Every week for 2010 there is a xbox live activity feed. Top 20 xbl games for every week. Take a look 

 

MW2 dominated 2010 (Reach took top for abit) then BLOPS dominated after. 

 

Not going to post 52 links but:

 

Jan http://majornelson.com/2010/01/27/live-activity-for-week-of-jan-18th/

Feb http://majornelson.com/2010/02/17/live-activity-for-week-of-feb-8th/

Mar http://majornelson.com/2010/03/23/live-activity-for-week-of-march-15/

Apr  http://majornelson.com/2010/04/20/live-activity-for-week-april-12/

May http://majornelson.com/2010/05/26/live-activity-for-week-may-17th/

Jun http://majornelson.com/2010/06/24/live-activity-for-week-of-june-14/

Jul http://majornelson.com/2010/08/04/live-activity-for-week-of-july-26/

Aug http://majornelson.com/2010/08/18/live-activity-for-week-of-aug-9/

Sep http://majornelson.com/2010/09/30/live-activity-for-week-of-sept-20th/

Oct Nothing available for october

Nov http://majornelson.com/2010/12/01/live-activity-for-week-of-nov-15/

Dec http://majornelson.com/2010/12/17/live-activity-for-week-of-nov-dec-6/

 

 

Hmmm... wonder what they were hiding from us...

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FUCKING RAGE. THE WHIPLASH IS THE MOST OVERPOWERED FUCKING JOKE IN THE GAME. A HEAVY MAGNETISM CROSS MAP ROCKET LAUNCHER.

 

I'm done with Warzone. I'd rather go against full auto corner campers than REQ spam 24/7. Fuck the energy system.

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I never said it was all 343's fault. Reach was terrible as well.

 

People need to stop using the competition excuse. Reach, h4 and h5 all had severly flawed mp. THAT is why they all struggled population wise.

Honestly, at this point, I think 343 hasn't any options to regain the population. I think that the population failure beginning with H4 was so dramatic and each title they release has been following that trend, for whatever reason. I think Halo the box will sell in the stores, but I don't believe we will ever see a sustained population like H3 and Reach ever again.

 

 

@@Sal1ent, prove me wrong. Bring back the pop counters.

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I'll strike like a Viper at Nightfall if you don't stop.

I'll have you know I have The Package to keep this up. You've only seen the Tip of the Spear so far.

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Anyone here going to try and replicate Halo 1 as close as possible in forge when it releases? Maps, gameplay, etc?

 

And is forging spawns similar to Halo 1 even possible?

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Honestly, at this point, I think 343 hasn't any options to regain the population. I think that the population failure beginning with H4 was so dramatic and each title they release has been following that trend, for whatever reason. I think Halo the box will sell in the stores, but I don't believe we will ever see a sustained population like H3 and Reach ever again.

 

 

@@Sal1ent, prove me wrong. Bring back the pop counters.

In all honesty, Halo 4 was the big "last chance", not H5.

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MW2 was out for less than 2 months in 2009. It was at the top for those 2 months. You specifically said H3 topped MW2. That did not happen. My whole point here is that MW2, Blops then MW3 dominated not only the shooter genre, not only video games, but media entertainment. Halo's popularity began to decline with the release of MW2 thru 2010. It did not START at Reach. It started with cod. Why Halo fans are so loathed to admit this is  :beyond: me. 343 sure as hell did a lot of work to put Halo in the position it is in today. BUT cod was the beginning of the decline, H3 2010 numbers are not close to 2009 numbers.

 

I honestly don't know where you're going with this. It's obvious by "top", I meant that it held the #1 spot for three years. I've even admitted that the multiple CoD's were hurting each other by splitting the community, so I agree with you. Nonetheless, it's an impressive achievement that Halo 3 continued to hold its spot for 3 years, especially since no other game has close. I agree with you, but that doesn't mean Halo 3's numbers aren't worth talking about when in comparison to Reach and Halo 4. Saying that a game was "in decline" when it held the #1 spot for that long is far-fetched. And of course the H3 2010 numbers aren't close to 2009, that's the standard life-cycle of every console game in existence.

 

Again, I don't know where you're going with this argument? What are you trying to say? That Halo 3 population declined year-by-year and that somehow warrants the new installments not coming close to its numbers? That no matter what Reach was like, the community was still going to take a nose dive? There's no way of making that argument because it's impossible to know what would happen if Reach was a proper Halo game, so all we have left are the numbers. And they all say that Halo 3 was gigantic popular game and Reach/H4 never touched its numbers, despite a larger Xbox 360 userbase. Saying that's all because of CoD when Reach/H4 happened to be the first "modern" Halo games is far-fetched.

 

The truth is that we will never know how a true Halo game will work this day-and-age because the developers don't have the balls to do it. They rather watch the series have the slowest death in gaming history.

 

Hmmm... wonder what they were hiding from us...

It's nothing like that. Major Nelson sometimes gets busy and doesn't have the time to post it. He's missed a few weeks too every now and then. Remember, he does all that for free. He didn't have to show us those numbers.

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That's not me, I would never have a negative KDA. 

 

 
 

 

Enlighten me how to earn a 50 in 10 games. Also Why do you think I'm referring to H3's shitty 1-50? H2's 1-50 had no exploits like H3's. It was purely based on wins, and no playing with low levels as a high level barely gave you exp towards your next rank -- you simply could not cheat it.

I agree with this. This ranking system is just dumb to me because you can be put in the highest rank (champion) by playing ten games... lol it should not work like this. But the #1 reason i prefer 1-50 is because some of us don't have the time to play halo 24/7,  so whenever i grind to champion (1-25) and i get off, then the next day i hop on and I'm back in onyx and that is so stupid to me. Makes me not even wanna try for champion because i can't play 24/7 like some of these people. This ranking system is just who can grab a t04 and stomp people the longest. Pointless

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Reach's population was by no means awful. Why is it being used as an example? Reach held a good 70% of Halo 3's population numbers and saw a similar gradual decline. Keep in mind how big Halo 3's numbers were, so 70% of that is still very healthy IMO. The gameplay sucked but it was a casual's paradise.

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I agree with this. This ranking system is just dumb to me because you can be put in the highest rank (champion) by playing ten games... lol it should not work like this. But the #1 reason i prefer 1-50 is because some of us don't have the time to play halo 24/7,  so whenever i grind to champion (1-25) and i get off, then the next day i hop on and I'm back in onyx and that is so stupid to me. Makes me not even wanna try for champion because i can't play 24/7 like some of these people. This ranking system is just who can grab a t04 and stomp people the longest. Pointless

Why do you have to be top 200? You don't even get put in champion unless your the first 200 put in onyx out of placements matches. I agree you shouldn't be able to be put that high and I think you should be able to rank down a division. But comparing a rank 50 to champion is just silly.

 

The only thing I like more about 1-50 is that it's easier to find games for top people because getting to champion makes people struggle to find games.

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@@Sal1ent

@@Bravo

 

How about adding party restrictions so teams of 4 can't match randoms?

 

Your game is dying and this was a major complaint in H4, yet it's a problem in H5 again... "sigh"

I doubt we gonna hear from either of them until they have something new to sell to us...

 

Am I the only one who is not even remotely exited about HR coming to the XBO? I wont even bother installing it to be honest...

 

and good that we get so rocket stuff and no doubles this weekend, this way I have no excuse to not get my  university work done :kappa:

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Raid on Apex 7 is super broken, able to steal the armory before hand and being able to get BEHIND the base without anyone knowing destroys the fun of the game.

Are we talking about Warzone or Warzone Assault? 

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