C403 Posted March 1, 2015 That is incredibly optimistic of you... I know, but the way Microsoft is managing itself right now is extremely different from the way they did it a few years ago or in the 90s. They're trying to get a good rep and be a good company in the eyes of the public. It would be pretty dumb of them to not fix this mess. Frankly, I'm more worried about bringing the population back up. Quote Share this post Link to post
C403 Posted March 1, 2015 I really gotta type that long ass link into my browser? Shit is gonna take forever. Where dem cliff notes? http://gyazo.com/e96593844fa8d115712ab5a3727e96e8 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
OG Nick Posted March 1, 2015 I really gotta type that long ass link into my browser? Shit is gonna take forever. Where dem cliff notes? Just google the title of the reddit article you can see in the picture, that's how I found it 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ABearInTheWoods Posted March 1, 2015 Wasn't the matchmaking portion outsourced? I mean, I still blame 343 for this mess, but if they're rewriting the entire matchmaking/party/etc system then that's a big task. Their error (this time) was giving the February timeline. I have no doubt they're going to fix this mess entirely, it's just that they should be handling the PR much differently. Anything in particular that makes you feel that way? Or are you just wishing on a prayer? Because if their track record speaks for itself - we're screwed. Quote Share this post Link to post
C403 Posted March 1, 2015 Anything in particular that makes you feel that way? Or are you just wishing on a prayer? Because if their track record speaks for itself - we're screwed. I know, but the way Microsoft is managing itself right now is extremely different from the way they did it a few years ago or in the 90s. They're trying to get a good rep and be a good company in the eyes of the public. It would be pretty dumb of them to not fix this mess. Frankly, I'm more worried about bringing the population back up. Also, note that Halo 5 worked almost flawlessly (For what it was meant to be anyways), and that was 343s project entirely. This was mostly outsourced. Quote Share this post Link to post
ABearInTheWoods Posted March 1, 2015 Also, note that Halo 5 worked almost flawlessly (For what it was meant to be anyways), and that was 343s project entirely. This was mostly outsourced. Soooooo MCC will be entirely fixed because the H5 beta worked? Quote Share this post Link to post
C403 Posted March 1, 2015 Soooooo MCC will be entirely fixed because the H5 beta worked? No, I'm saying that MCC is a mess because everything was outsourced then sorta glued together. It seems 343 is rewriting a lot of things from scratch for this upcoming CU, so I'm optimistic it will work. My point was that if you want a sample of pure 343 code, then the H5 beta gives you that (and it worked fine). Quote Share this post Link to post
Antidope Posted March 1, 2015 Wasn't 343 responsible for the matchmaking overlay of this game? Quote Share this post Link to post
Moa Posted March 1, 2015 One week you're bashing this article because it somehow burns bridges between the competitive community and now suddenly you have an inside source at 343 that just so happens to confirm that they're doing the painfully obvious and that Dan Ayoub and Bonnie Ross are still hard at work. No offence but you pulled this story out of your ass, it makes absolutely zero sense for a meeting to be called suddenly after 100 days just because one article got pushed out there. They know the game is broken and they're working on it and have been for those 100 days. Why would they stop everyone from working on the constant flow of content updates just to tell them nothing new, let alone rent an entire room for it. Also, why would the Halo 5: Guardians team have anything to do with this? They won't be working on fixes for MCC, their primary focus is Halo 5 and it always will be. Reiku - just stop. You don't have an inside source and you never will, not a single person in that company is silly enough to risk losing their job over YOU who consistently flames and bashes any community that goes against your personal beliefs. You consistently try to white knight for 343 industries and it's painful to watch. http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/2xigba/343_knows_about_the_100_days_mcc_article_and_had/cp0kx6w Sorry if I made any typos but I'm in bed, tired and on my phone. 18 Quote Share this post Link to post
ABearInTheWoods Posted March 1, 2015 No, I'm saying that MCC is a mess because everything was outsourced then sorta glued together. It seems 343 is rewriting a lot of things from scratch for this upcoming CU, so I'm optimistic it will work. My point was that if you want a sample of pure 343 code, then the H5 beta gives you that (and it worked fine). Do you happen to know what particular portions were "outsourced?" Because, from what I have observed is that everyone throws out the blanket stament, "343 outsourced the game, so its not their fault" without really having any amplifying information to validate that they are without fault. If you tell me all they were responsible for is advertising for MCC, or the artwork for H2A, or some other cosmetic crap - then sure - I will concede to your assesment. Sure the H5 beta, for the most part worked, I am not aguing that - but its just hard for me to not find fault in the fail that is MCC when ultimately its their responsibility to ensure that the consumer receives the game that they stood on stage and promised "Would be just like you remembered!!" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andy Posted March 1, 2015 Do you happen to know what particular portions were "outsourced?" Because, from what I have observed is that everyone throws out the blanket stament, "343 outsourced the game, so its not their fault" without really having any amplifying information to validate that they are without fault. If you tell me all they were responsible for is advertising for MCC, or the artwork for H2A, or some other cosmetic crap - then sure - I will concede to your assesment. Sure the H5 beta, for the most part worked, I am not aguing that - but its just hard for me to not find fault in the fail that is MCC when ultimately its their responsibility to ensure that the consumer receives the game that they stood on stage and promised "Would be just like you remembered!!" Certain Affinity - H2A Multiplayer Saber - H2A Campaign Ruffian Games - Halo 3 and 4 United Front Games - Unified Interface 343 - UI Design, online system, more minor things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Moa Posted March 1, 2015 Certain Affinity - H2A Multiplayer Saber - H2A Campaign Ruffian Games - Halo 3 and 4 United Front Games - Unified Interface 343 - UI Design, online system, more minor things. Blur Studios - cinematics for H2A Quote Share this post Link to post
Andy Posted March 1, 2015 The actual people to blame at 343 for MCC is maybe 20 people, outta the whole team. Blur Studios - cinematics for H2A Always forget those guys Quote Share this post Link to post
VODE Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry if I made any typos but I'm in bed, tired and on my phone. Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Jawshe Posted March 1, 2015 Just the fact that Dan Ayoub was pretty much the spokesperson for MCC, came out at E3 and (awkwardly) announced MCC, etc. and then goes COMPLETELY silent with not ONE word spoken since November 11th. Not one "Hey guys, hard at work", or "Hey dudes, sorry". Nope. Nothing. Its absolutely mind numbing. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post
ABearInTheWoods Posted March 1, 2015 Just the fact that Dan Ayoub was pretty much the spokesperson for MCC, came out at E3 and (awkwardly) announced MCC, etc. and then goes COMPLETELY silent with not ONE word spoken since November 11th. Not one "Hey guys, hard at work", or "Hey dudes, sorry". Nope. Nothing. Its absolutely mind numbing. I heard Ayoub took a new job at Bonafide Boarding 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
CurrY Posted March 1, 2015 If this upcoming patch doesn't fix alot of stuff then I don't care anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post
ABearInTheWoods Posted March 1, 2015 If this upcoming patch doesn't fix alot of stuff then I don't care anymore. Just a lot? If they havnt spent the past 100+ days making the game fully functional - im going to lose my shit. Quote Share this post Link to post
Nades Posted March 1, 2015 Just a lot? If they havnt spent the past 100+ days making the game fully functional - im going to lose my shit. Haven't they already said thus update is only for online issues like party's, search times, ect. I wouldn't expect this update to make the game fully working. Quote Share this post Link to post
Moa Posted March 1, 2015 Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness. I don't know if I should apologize for apologizing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Antidope Posted March 1, 2015 Didn't know there was a HCS Cup today. There goes all hope of a patch release Quote Share this post Link to post
Zandermannnn Posted March 1, 2015 Didn't know there was a HCS Cup today. There goes all hope of a patch releaseDamn, didn't know that either. I was still hopping it may make it this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post
Moa Posted March 1, 2015 Didn't know there was a HCS Cup today. There goes all hope of a patch release They released one during a HCS Cup before, don't be too shocked if it happened again. They want it out there as soon as it is done in certification. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
VinnyMendoza Posted March 1, 2015 Just a lot? If they havnt spent the past 100+ days making the game fully functional - im going to lose my shit. Prepare to be disappointed, they've said many times this patch won't fix game specific issues. Quote Share this post Link to post
