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4 hours ago, TiberiusAudley said:

It just shows how little you followed H5, not really a bad thing since the game was a pretty far departure from CE/2/3's style of Halo.  He also wasn't even old enough to compete in H5 when it launched, got picked up immediately once he came of age, and soared to the top.

BUT, Shotzzy had by far the best movement in all of H5 -- and he's a homegrown Team Beyond talent who made his mark winning Team Beyond-hosted 2v2 tourneys before he got the chance to play 4v4 HCS matches.

He, Huke, and Frosty all went to CoD after H5 died off, all three of them have won LANs in CoD.  Extremely dominant young players.

Story of the last decade:

"X-player got his start in Halo before moving on to far more relevant, far more lucrative ventures."

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3 hours ago, Cursed Lemon said:

Story of the last decade:

"X-player got his start in Halo before moving on to far more relevant, far more lucrative ventures."

Oof.

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2015 to like whenever MCC started being released on PC was a dark time to be a Halo fan. Even if you were one of those weirdos who liked 343, I'd imagine. The fanbase in general was just dead.

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4 hours ago, Cursed Lemon said:

Story of the last decade:

"X-player got his start in Halo before moving on to far more relevant, far more lucrative ventures."

Kephrii went from fringe 13-16 H5 anchor to lucrative OW streaming personality because he was good at Widowmaker.

Imagine what some of these other players could do.

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22 minutes ago, Landonio said:

If bargain bin Tim Tebow gets top 2, I'm deleting my account :lxthul:

Remember when Demon D won a championship

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Idk how anyone that wasn't on TD can say anything about that event tbh. Its not like BtH was bad by any stretch and TD was the only team that had to deal with something extraordinary afaik

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11 hours ago, Snipe Three said:

Idk how anyone that wasn't on TD can say anything about that event tbh. Its not like BtH was bad by any stretch and TD was the only team that had to deal with something extraordinary afaik

tD got robbed, they should've won Orlando '09.

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10 hours ago, Riddler said:

Addy is a mystical drug. 

Tangentially related question:

If you made a Top 25 Baseball players of all time, would you exclude Barry Bonds because of his PED use?

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3 minutes ago, TiberiusAudley said:

Tangentially related question:

If you made a Top 25 Baseball players of all time, would you exclude Barry Bonds because of his PED use?

If he wasnt a stud before the roids, yes. But he was.

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5 minutes ago, TiberiusAudley said:

If you made a Top 25 Baseball players of all time, would you exclude Barry Bonds because of his PED use?

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11 minutes ago, TheFloyd said:

If he wasnt a stud before the roids, yes. But he was.

So then, would you exclude Halo players from the list for use of Adderall?

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4 minutes ago, TiberiusAudley said:

So then, would you exclude Halo players from the list for use of Adderall?

Don't think so as it definitely appeared as though pretty much all of the top 8 was using it from 2005-2012 at the very least.

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Just now, TheFloyd said:

Don't think so as it definitely appeared as though pretty much all of the top 8 was using it from 2005-2012 at the very least.

Also it's a prescribed drug for some.

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2 hours ago, TiberiusAudley said:

Tangentially related question:

If you made a Top 25 Baseball players of all time, would you exclude Barry Bonds because of his PED use?

To answer straight up, i wouldn't exclude him nor any halo players. And both for the same reason. People be "cheating" now. And you also have to consider the time period. The best cheater out of all cheaters aint that way for lack of skill. but there is different type of cheating. Paying someone to lose is obviously going to throw big doubts into legacy compared to just being the better guy on PEDs. 

It's also hilarious to me that there was an Adderall scandal in cod. And it was fucking Huke. Where do we think he picked up this habit, hmm...

 

I need to read more into this story, heard it in passing and didn't think much of it at the time

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55 minutes ago, Riddler said:

It's also hilarious to me that there was an Adderall scandal in cod. And it was fucking Huke. Where do we think he picked up this habit, hmm...

No way in hell is this only a Halo related issue. The over prescription epidemic in America bleeds into everything

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Walshy at 8. :D. They had former pros vote on this list. Shit is comical. They should be ashamed of themselves. 

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At least one person from Final Boss has personally offended or harmed at least one of the judges.

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2 hours ago, Noodle said:

At least one person from Final Boss has personally offended or harmed at least one of the judges.

Someone was probably just all in on the Halo 5 guys and just left off the older greats from the list entirely and that's what did this. They value someone being dominant in a recent title over people who were just as dominant in multiple games a long time ago because they don't understand the difference between all time greatness and recent top players

Its like when Charles Barkley chose AI over Michael Jordan because he misunderstood the question he was answering for an all time all star game lol

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1 hour ago, Snipe Three said:

Someone was probably just all in on the Halo 5 guys and just left off the older greats from the list entirely and that's what did this. They value someone being dominant in a recent title over people who were just as dominant in multiple games a long time ago because they don't understand the difference between all time greatness and recent top players

Its like when Charles Barkley chose AI over Michael Jordan because he misunderstood the question he was answering for an all time all star game lol

Recency bias is a hell of a drug.

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13 hours ago, TiberiusAudley said:

Tangentially related question:

If you made a Top 25 Baseball players of all time, would you exclude Barry Bonds because of his PED use?

Bonds would 100000000% be out.  The use of the drugs were clearly against the MLB's rules, and had a significant impact on his performance at the one task he was good at (batting). 

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