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Hey Multi,

 

I heard about all that stuff that went down and I just gotta say I'm devastated for you man. Honestly if someone were to ask me " Name one community member that you think 343 desperately needs to hire" you would have been the first name I brought up.

 

We all have things we wish we never said and I understand that for someone actively seeking employment in the industry...you need to be careful. But I still find the decision to revoke your offer incredibly drastic and I'm very upset that the studio would take such a measure for such an insignificant clearly hyperbolic comment.

 

However, I think you're handling this in the best possible way. It shows your TRUE character that when faced with this level of adversity, rather than lash out, insult people, point fingers.... you instead come at it with humbleness, understanding, and professionalism. I only hope that 343 sees that as the REAL person they were going to hire. A guy that's probably one of the most creative and thoughtful map designers I've ever seen.

 

All I can say man is don't give up. Take this, learn from it, and keep trying because they need you over there. There's always a way, and I hope 343 is willing to at least talk about this with you and come to an understanding because as it stands now it's a lose lose for both parties. I really hope they reconsider the offer, but no matter what goes down in the imminent future I have no doubt you'll wind up incredibly successful in the end.

 

-Fav

All love

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Multi,

wow, what a bummer to read. i'm sorry you had to get burned the way you did.

if it's of any solace, just know that 343 is the reason many casuals like myself have left the game for good, and won't return no matter how juicy the nostalgia may surface; they are destined for total failure because, to put it simply, they were never halokids. They had never experienced the soul of Halo, so when it was exchanged for easier profits by way of accessibility, no one noticed what was lost.

sucks to visit after so long just to see that nothing has changed.

don't give up on your dreams no matter what.

i wish you the very best.

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Here's my two cents on the matter.

 

343 was wrong to not do a thorough background search with this guy in the community. Offering the job and then snatching the opportunity away really sucks.

 

However, I can understand why they're going back on it. His comments and videos in the past were pretty toxic to both 343 ("none of them deserve their jobs" - incredibly ignorant) and the CCs. Behavior like that can be read as signs of hot-headedness, difficulty working with people that he doesn't like, immaturity and especially a big PR risk.

 

I'm not a game developer, but it makes sense to me for a company to turn someone away if they seem like they wouldn't be able to work as a team with your employees and could potentially make your company look bad with behavior. 

Yeah except your real life persona is hopefully not the same as your ONLINE persona.

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Wow I really have a lot of work ahead of me, but I also don't want to stock shelves for the rest of my life....

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343 only wants to hire people that hate Halo. 

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Multi has conducted himself very professionally since this news broke so you deserve credit for that, glad to see it hasn't deterred you entirely from your passion for the Halo series also. I hope we hear the full story from both sides soon.

 

343 will just sweep this under the rug like MCC. They have no obligation to talk about this and it's literally the little man vs a huge evil corporation.

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If anyone is still interested, the final night of Pro League is tonight

 

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Please give Halo to Gfinity or MLG after this

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I'll just jump on the tail end of this discussion with my 2 cents.

 

It is awkward being reminded that forums, no matter how small, are public platforms, and the rants that were posted while sitting in lobbies with friends are now subject to scrutiny with fine toothed combs. I regret many of the comments I have made, and this serves as a greater lesson to those who take it as such. Fortunately, it also is a great reminder that video games are just games until you make it more than that. Halo in particular is a series many of us grew up with, and are thus impassioned deeply about. That doesn't justify every expression about it - or anything else - but it highlights the fact that a wider lens and broader perspective will help to filter those colorful rays. 

 

This is a rather somber moment - for both Halo and the community. For me, it has been another reason to rethink my priorities - chiefly (no pun intended) removing the microscope from my view of this world. But for those whose true passion remains there, I hope that what they want to become is worth leaving behind who they currently are. 

 

Anyway, that's all I will say publicly. 

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If anyone is still interested, the final night of Pro League is tonight

 

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Please give Halo to Gfinity or MLG after this

I hope this is the death of ESL for Halo. ESL should just stick to CSGO in my opinion, That's where all of their money goes anyways. 

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I hope this is the death of ESL for Halo. ESL should just stick to CSGO in my opinion, That's where all of their money goes anyways. 

I might be missing something, but why would this mean the end of ESL and Halo's partnership? Is it just because it's the end of the season?

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So glad my halo2forum handle was a random, 06 was an edgy fucking year.

 

This was literally my exact thought. No one will know I was Dr Dude 9  :kappa:

 

A top forger would've been an amazing addition. I'm ready for some fresh maps. This really sucks.

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I might be missing something, but why would this mean the end of ESL and Halo's partnership? Is it just because it's the end of the season?

There is no relegation this season, which leads to speculation that pro league is going to be dropped and 343 is going to go with a different TO (Hopefully MLG). Plus i'm pretty sure ESL and 343's contract expires after denver too. 

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Selling excess REQs can only be done one at a time, you cannot mark them for bulk sale.

 

Hilariously, someone created a Chrome extension that allowed you to bulk sell as many different REQs as you wanted of any weapon, vehicle, power up, or custom filtered option.

 

It was removed from the Chrome extension page because of a complaint from (I'm guessing) MS or 343 because it had the word "Halo" in the name.  It was actually a beautifully built extension that fit the exact design style of the Waypoint site.  Sadly, the individual who developed it never re-uploaded with a new extension name.

 

TL:DR; A community member built a solution to solve a problem that everyone has complained about since day 1 - solution is removed because petty big company.

 

Edit: Also should add, if you already were using the extension and still have it in Chrome, you can keep using it.  If you delete it, you won't be able to get it back.

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There is no relegation this season, which leads to speculation that pro league is going to be dropped and 343 is going to go with a different TO (Hopefully MLG). Plus i'm pretty sure ESL and 343's contract expires after denver too. 

Oh damn, that's... intriguing. I guess we'll see after Denver, I'd assume they'll announce it after the finals, if anything is happening after, that is.

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Hilariously, someone created a Chrome extension that allowed you to bulk sell as many different REQs as you wanted of any weapon, vehicle, power up, or custom filtered option.

 

It was removed from the Chrome extension page because of a complaint from (I'm guessing) MS or 343 because it had the word "Halo" in the name.  It was actually a beautifully built extension that fit the exact design style of the Waypoint site.  Sadly, the individual who developed it never re-uploaded with a new extension name.

 

TL:DR; A community member built a solution to solve a problem that everyone has complained about since day 1 - solution is removed because petty big company.

 

Edit: Also should add, if you already were using the extension and still have it in Chrome, you can keep using it.  If you delete it, you won't be able to get it back.

Yeah I still have that and it works perfectly although I'm pretty sure it just spammed deleting 1 at a time rather than an actual bulk sale. Functionally the same if you'll give it a few seconds but 343 isn't really known for problem solving. Also hilarious to note that Destiny has many such apps and extensions and they're fully supported and very helpful. Its too bad Halo is stuck with what it has

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Oh damn, that's... intriguing. I guess we'll see after Denver, I'd assume they'll announce it after the finals, if anything is happening after, that is.

Hopefully. It would a really dumb decision to not announce anything for after finals. No one even knows If they should invest any more time into halo esports. I am sure there will be something though since Tashi has said he is excited for the future. So maybe MLG plans idk Only time will tell...but lets hope we get information.

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Man, it's really unfortunate 343 won't hire people who say negative things about them, because they really need to hire a UX/UI designer who will look at their menu and heartily laugh in their faces before cracking his knuckles and fixing all of the little things like

  • Pressing up at the top of a menu doesn't go to the bottom of the menu (Except in Custom Game creation, but not in map/gametype selection within Custom Game creation)
  • Selling excess REQs can only be done one at a time, you cannot mark them for bulk sale.
  • Deleting Bookmarks can only be done one at a time, and there is a limit of 500 (I think) bookmarks you can store in-client at any given time.
  • In order to Delete a Bookmark, you have to press Left Thumbstick, Up, and A. And if you do this too fast after the previous bookmark is deleted, it will not delete the second one.
  • A Deleted Bookmark is not removed from your list of Bookmarks upon deletion -- the list is generated once per time you enter the menu after about a minute of loading.
  • You can then continue to "Delete" the already Deleted Bookmark, and it will tell you Delete Successful! -- even though you already deleted that bookmark.
  • These are just the ones I deal with in my limited time playing Halo. I'm sure someone that actually plays the game can make a longer list.

Add that:

[*] Backing out of a multiplayer sub-menu to the main screen first brings up a loading screen, which is super annoying when you back out on accident.

[*] Sometimes the map or mode you select in custom games isn't actually selected, though it shows it is. Once you start, it'll be a different map/mode.

[*] Often when you finish a custom game it resets to Stasis for map. (WHY STASIS DAMMIT AT LEAST BE THE FIRST MAP ALPHABETICALLY)

[*] Lobbies while searching MM can be super temperamental. You could be leader of the lobby actively searching for a game but have this weird menu screen that might show that your lobby is searching but give you no option to back out.

[*] I've seen the "max player" count for custom lobbies violated way too many times.

[*] Sometimes a member of your fireteam will be kicked from the loading MM lobby with no indication (it'll show them still in your lobby), but they would've been replaced by a random player in the match.

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