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What do people not like about iw I feel like it's the same exact game as bo3. Seriously they're like mechanically identical

TTK is slightly quicker, reminds me of ghosts.

The payloads, oh man the payloads are broken, and literally ruin the casual playlists.

One of the character models has a smaller hitbox

spawns are god awful on some maps and defy basic spawn knowledge 

Because the game is faster than blops 3 and more similar to AW, hardpoints is literally just fly at the opposition and pray for a break, (breakout hardpoint the only exception)

 

 

But mainly I think regardless of those issues, this game was just the straw that broke the camels back, it could have been the best jetpack game (it isn't) and people still would have hated on it as they want classic cod back. (and sent a crystal clear message about it)

 

  • Poor sales figures, i believe activison cut the sales price in half one week after release
  • most hated youtube video of all time was the trailer
  • poor twitch viewership
  • poor game population
  • the fact that mwr has a larger population (it is significantly more) -

 

Activision was fortunate though that they bundled mwr with iW and i believe only now are selling them separately. That really did boost the sales of iw up quite a bit and satisified the fans to some degree, otherwise yikes.

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What do people not like about iw I feel like it's the same exact game as bo3. Seriously they're like mechanically identical

I couldnt stand blops3 either so that makes sense. More of the same shit doesnt taste better over time.

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Bo2 was an outlier and not considered the standard. Please don't cherry pick info.https://youtu.be/OcTf2kDuxrs

I'll watch the video later but I'm not trying to "cherry pick info". I've been talking almost exclusively about Black Ops 2 because it is considered by most pros and fans to be the pinnacle of competitive Call of Duty. I'm pointing out that for all of Black Ops 2's problems games like Infinite Warfare are far worse overall.

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Sorry, I'll talk about everything that's exciting in Halo right now with this post:

i'm interested in seeing who places where in the legendary cup today but besides that i'm with ya, i can't wait for the new cod

 

h5 is super stale right now

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I wouldn't say that, 343i was handed a proven IP by MS - sadly they want to put their own spin on things and also don't want to be known Bungie v2 if they copy the original games. Nobody wins now.

 

I get it, but it does suck for those that like traditional Halo games. They are long gone now.

 

It just seemed like everything Bungie did, 343 wanted to change it (even the things that didn't need changing). 

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So all we know about H6 is that it will have splitscreen, LAN, a Beta, and Master Chief is the main character again? Too be fair, those are all good things.

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So all we know about H6 is that it will have splitscreen, LAN, a Beta, and Master Chief is the main character again? Too be fair, those are all good things.

ordnances are back too

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So all we know about H6 is that it will have splitscreen, LAN, a Beta, and Master Chief is the main character again? Too be fair, those are all good things.

Did we get confirmed splitscreen? How did I miss that?

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Did we get confirmed splitscreen? Hoe did I miss that?

 

“We've also had a lot of learnings along the way,” Ross said. “You know when we fell down with the multiplayer launch of [Halo: The Master Chief Collection], or when we didn't put split screen in with Halo 5. I think it's incredibly painful for the community and for us. It erodes trust with the community, as the community is part of our world building. [We’ve had a] lot of learnings from that, and I would say for any FPS going out forward we will always have split screen going forward...”

https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/23/14715906/halo-split-screen-coming-back-halo-6-bonnie-ross-343-industries

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Ah nice. Thanks Moses. I was just complaining yesterday about how it sucks that I cant play co-op campaign with my son.

I don't see split-screen co-op coming back any time soon, honestly. I expect to see two player split-screen for MP and that's about it.

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I'll watch the video later but I'm not trying to "cherry pick info". I've been talking almost exclusively about Black Ops 2 because it is considered by most pros and fans to be the pinnacle of competitive Call of Duty. I'm pointing out that for all of Black Ops 2's problems games like Infinite Warfare are far worse overall.

I agree. Didn't mean to word it like that.

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I don't see split-screen co-op coming back any time soon, honestly. I expect to see two player split-screen for MP and that's about it.

yeah, but if the campaign isn't worth playing does it really matter??

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I've seen you mention this a few times. What is it about the game that makes you feel that way? Apologize if you've elaborated on your feelings earlier and I missed it.

I know you weren't asking me, but For me, I'd probably be all over it if they brought back some of the missing gamemodes.

 

I'm not a competitive player, but I only REALLY like 4v4 and strongholds, ctf, slayers has gotten really stale 20months later, especially since half the time we end up with slayer.

 

I also miss rumble pit. Current FFA settings are not only trash, but there nothing here for the Solo guy who wants a little variety.

 

In short, playlist management has been... rough... from the start, and the dwindling population obviously makes it tough for changes to be implemented that don't further fragment the player base. It's a catch 22 that makes me not want to play.

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I've seen you mention this a few times. What is it about the game that makes you feel that way? Apologize if you've elaborated on your feelings earlier and I missed it.

http://teambeyond.net/forum/topic/15220-hcshwc-constructive-feedback-criticism-and-ideas/?fromsearch=1

 

For a viewing perspective.

 

as to playing, there are just so many things that dont work. We fought aim for over a year and there are still problems. There are 5 maps and 3 gametypes. It all gets old fast tbh

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I've seen you mention this a few times. What is it about the game that makes you feel that way? Apologize if you've elaborated on your feelings earlier and I missed it.

 

Drop arena and focus on warzone.

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