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Gretzky wasn’t a two way player, I think Mario Lemieux is the best two way hockey player ever. Gretzky is great and if you remove all of his career goals he would still have the most points all-time. But how much of that has to do with how the assist stat in hockey works? Seems like a bit of a compiler if you ask me. Do we consider Emmitt Smith to be the best running back of all time in football? He’s got the most yards!

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6 hours ago, gporter said:

I think Mario Lemieux is the best two way hockey player ever.

...Everything is suddenly making sense about you.  

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Okay? Who’s better? At least I share my actual thoughts and don’t just post links and take subtle jabs at people’s character.

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Someone capable of being effective in both aspects of the game, not necessarily in on all the scoring opportunities when they’re on the ice, but still capable. Sort of like how Jonathan Toews was in the three Stanley cup titles the blackhawks won, while Patrick Kane was more of the scoring forward, like a Wayne Gretzky.

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This "other" aspect of the game...it wouldn't happen to involve...playing defensively, would it? 

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6 minutes ago, legendaryshotz said:

The best defense is just to keep scoring

Not going to be able to score if the other teams poke checking the puck away from you at the blue line and your forwards are spending all of their energy in their own offensive zone. Winning hockey is all about the back check. Forecheck becomes much easier when your top line has fresh legs and aren’t being worn out defending.

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Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Elvin Hayes, Nate Thurmond etc...

Shaq isn't even the best Center of his era, and isn't even close to the best Center of all time.

Wilt is the only Center in the history of the NBA to lead the league in points, rebounds and assists during his career.

Wilt averaged over 45 minutes per game for his career, his stamina is unprecedented.

There isn't anyone in history who can match up against a prime Wilt Chamberlain because nobody in history can match up with him.

Teams were trying to recruit Wilt when he was 50 years old.

Wilt would destroy

Jordan played in an expansion era in a watered down east and only succeeded after the great players of the 80's either retired or were past their primes.

Jordan ran away from the NBA and the Bulls only lost 2 more regular season games without him, and were robbed from going to the finals by poor officiating.

Rules were changed to slow down Wilt, Jordan was the most protected player in history.

 

Jordan is only the GOAT in the eyes of poorly informed people.

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I only like him because he is the single greatest player of all time.

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Shaq is one of the most dominant players ever, you're tripping Rick. 

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Shaq was good, but he wasn't even close to being as good as Wilt.

 

Hakeem was a better player than Shaq.

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On 10/11/2019 at 6:11 AM, Buffdaddy Jamal said:

LOL yeah china (+india) who make up 90% of the trash pollution in the oceans are surely beating the US in "addressing the climate". You have less than room temp IQ.

You consume products made in China & India that are owned by American companies. You're the one trashing everything lmao

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On 10/15/2019 at 12:48 AM, TheDood said:

The UK should have never given up Hong Kong. 

Big bruh moment I thought you respected self determination and sovereignty? 

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On 10/13/2019 at 1:16 PM, Cypress said:

Da inDiaNz doE.   God u are a fkn mental midget libtard robot lmao

This is actual political correctness. Refusing to answer hard questions about America's history as a genocidal slave state that aims to make America a more civilised place.

They want you to shut up & accuse anything that questions power and tyranny as political correctness which fyi is literally a Koch brother term concocted in the 90s in the mainstream media.

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On 10/22/2019 at 10:41 PM, Niku said:

This is actual political correctness. Refusing to answer hard questions about America's history as a genocidal slave state that aims to make America a more civilised place.

They want you to shut up & accuse anything that questions power and tyranny as political correctness which fyi is literally a Koch brother term concocted in the 90s in the mainstream media.


 

Ironic that it's always the people who desire only government possessing guns, more government control over every aspect of our lives, government telling us what we can and can't do, that bring up the fucking Native Americans and genocide.  Also ironic that it's always the commies in this thread that bring up things like 'It'Z imPORtant to learnZ from hisTORY gaiS".  

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8 hours ago, Cypress said:


 

Ironic that it's always the people who desire only government possessing guns, more government control over every aspect of our lives, government telling us what we can and can't do, that bring up the fucking Native Americans and genocide.  Also ironic that it's always the commies in this thread that bring up things like 'It'Z imPORtant to learnZ from hisTORY gaiS".  

Well done for bringing up literally every fucking corporate government talking point there ever was like the drone that you are.

And then topping it off with 'commies' lol

Do you actually ever talk substance? Or is 'shut up and dont speak or think commie' all you have?

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Here's a history lesson.

Conservatives love gun control when black people begin to bear arms and kick the murderous cops out of their neighborhoods with them.

 

Which is why they are happy to relax gun laws in areas where their brainwashed followers of the government like Trump supporters live because they know they will be aiming those guns at innocents and civil society groups.

 

But the moment anyone is actually interested in actual freedom suddenly they're not so cool with laws like open carry, because organised, armed black people don't go down well with killer cops.

 

 

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On 10/24/2019 at 6:36 AM, gporter said:

Speaking of Shaq...

 

America does not have free speech.

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