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2 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

Can't wait for the Bernie vs Trump debates, Trump is going to get fucked so bad and all he's going to say is "CrAzY BeRnIe". That is unless the dems want to lose again then they'll shift away from him and try to get another shill in there.

Also, bernie is all about letting people speak. Giving a voice to people who otherwise get squashed by people in power. So not sure what exactly you're trying to argue here.

I too would love to see a Bernie vs Trump debate.  Once Bernie is questioned he falls more flat than an open week old Coke.

 

Are you really trying to defend Bernie being trumped by a couple of random people?  He is weak, plain and simple.  The man has no backbone.

 

Bernie is a terrible debater and his ideas make absolutely no sense.  Anyone with even half of a brain can see that, so I understand why you cannot.

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Considering Trump got manhandled in the debates by Hillary, a person with the charisma of a potato, you begging for Trump's annihilation by Bernie is funny. 

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6 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

Can't wait for the Bernie vs Trump debates, Trump is going to get fucked so bad and all he's going to say is "CrAzY BeRnIe". That is unless the dems want to lose again then they'll shift away from him and try to get another shill in there.

Also, bernie is all about letting people speak. Giving a voice to people who otherwise get squashed by people in power. So not sure what exactly you're trying to argue here.

lol

Bernie isn’t about ‘giving a voice’ to anyone.  He is about ‘giving my fucking paycheck’ to them.   

Can you imagine being so weak and feeble in life that u need a socialist politician to drag your helpless ass out of your own swamp?

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6 hours ago, akaWest said:

Letting people speak? He was strong armed into giving up the mic, then he pouted like a bitch and left the rally. A rally he was invited to, so he could speak about social security.  

 

Yeah he should have punched them both in the face and asserted his dominance as an alpha male. 

But yeah he was respectfully in the background listening. I don’t know about you but a good leader listens from time to time, his whole career has been about the American people being put ahead of politicians, ahead of stupid bullshit profit under any means corporations, so it’s not shocking he let them speak at the end of the day.

Again I’m not sure what the point of your post is, other than the alpha male/beta male fallacy which lets be real if you’re trying to act like a superstud power guy nonstop you’re really trying to cover up some deep insecurities. 

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I want Bernie or one of his fanboys to explain to me why, someone who didn't attend college should have pay for me to go, or pay off my loans that I consensually acquired? Especially when statistically, in the long term, I will make more money than them. 

Doesn't seem moral and doesn't seem fair. 

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What is everyone's opinions on reparations for slavery? Since that is apparently a mainstream position of all the 2020 Dem candidates. 

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40 minutes ago, TheDood said:

I want Bernie or one of his fanboys to explain to me why, someone who didn't attend college should have pay for me to go, or pay off my loans that I consensually acquired? Especially when statistically, in the long term, I will make more money than them. 

Doesn't seem moral and doesn't seem fair. 

Why should people who haven't had kids have their taxes go to schools? Not fair! Almost as if there's a reason...like...maybe someday you'll have kids, or just because you're not a direct beneficiary from the taxes doesn't mean you shouldnt pay into them or literally nothing can be built or done.

Not to mention 1.5T from Trumps tax plan where 81% of the benefit goes to the 1%, man oh man whos going to pay for it??????

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23 minutes ago, legendaryshotz said:

Why should people who haven't had kids have their taxes go to schools? Not fair! Almost as if there's a reason...like...maybe someday you'll have kids, or just because you're not a direct beneficiary from the taxes doesn't mean you shouldnt pay into them or literally nothing can be built or done.

Not to mention 1.5T from Trumps tax plan where 81% of the benefit goes to the 1%, man oh man whos going to pay for 

Did you know that Obama bailed out Wall Street, then fined Wall Street and the fines were paid to progressive NGO's.

I'll say it again...

Obama stole money from taxpayers, gave it to Wall Street who then funneled billions to left wing political groups...let that sink in. 

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9 minutes ago, akaWest said:

Did you know that Obama bailed out Wall Street, then fined Wall Street and the fines were paid to progressive NGO's.

I'll say it again...

Obama stole money from taxpayers, gave it to Wall Street who then funneled billions to left wing political groups...let that sink in. 

Almost as bad as Bush deregulating everything for short term gains leading us into a recession. You cant be this dense.

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29 minutes ago, legendaryshotz said:

Almost as bad as Bush deregulating everything for short term gains leading us into a recession. You cant be this dense.

Are you under the assumption they play for different teams? You can't be this dense.

Bush and Obama can both get fucked

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1 hour ago, legendaryshotz said:

Why should people who haven't had kids have their taxes go to schools? Not fair! Almost as if there's a reason...like...maybe someday you'll have kids, or just because you're not a direct beneficiary from the taxes doesn't mean you shouldnt pay into them or literally nothing can be built or done.

Not to mention 1.5T from Trumps tax plan where 81% of the benefit goes to the 1%, man oh man whos going to pay for it??????

Everyone goes to school (unless they pay for a private one out of their own pocket), not everyone goes to college. In this case, you are literally robbing the poor to pay for the whiney rich.

 

Also, lol at democrats pretending that the media is somehow against them or their leftist agenda.

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On 6/24/2019 at 3:26 PM, akaWest said:

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Holy shit why is Bernie so cool!

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2 hours ago, TheDood said:

Everyone goes to school (unless they pay for a private one out of their own pocket), not everyone goes to college. In this case, you are literally robbing the poor to pay for the whiney rich.

 

Also, lol at democrats pretending that the media is somehow against them or their leftist agenda.

Trade schools will also be free like it was in the 50s so no.

Giving people equality of opportunity actually ensures everyone makes the most of themselves and actually get into positions in society through merit instead of the rampant vile nepotism that plagues most western countries.

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3 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

Almost as bad as Bush deregulating everything for short term gains leading us into a recession. You cant be this dense.

Bush was bad, but don't pretend Clinton and Reagan didn't fuck it up further. Bush jR was the nail in the coffin in a long line of neocon and neoliberal fuck stains.

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Also lol Obama bailed out wall st blah blah blah, no leftist actually gives a fuck about Obama. He is not our guy.

 

Unlike Reagan who exploded government spending and bailed out a fuck ton of banks, he is defs your guy.

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13 hours ago, TheDood said:

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017/05/what-is-conservatism/

 

The end of this article does a good job of articulating the differences between Liberals and Conservatives on different issues.

Liberal conservative dichotomy has been dead since like 2015 dude at least in America. At least outside of America everyone knows liberals are right wing conservative fucks

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7 hours ago, Cursed Lemon said:

Considering Trump got manhandled in the debates by Hillary, a person with the charisma of a potato, you begging for Trump's annihilation by Bernie is funny. 

That shit gave me brain cancer. That wasn't a debate. You can't even 'man handle' a giant fucking child.

It was a complete waste of time and it was disgustingly moderated by corporate cunts to steer away from issues that actually appear to 80% of the population.

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6 hours ago, Cypress said:

lol

Bernie isn’t about ‘giving a voice’ to anyone.  He is about ‘giving my fucking paycheck’ to them.   

Can you imagine being so weak and feeble in life that u need a socialist politician to drag your helpless ass out of your own swamp?

Bernie isn't taxing anyone you dumb fuck. Unless you're a drug company, higher education scammer  or an insurance parasite you're not losing anything and you'll be even richer because Bernie will actually bring manufacturing to America and modernise the country.

 

Meanwhile under Trump, the factories are abandoned, and the unemployed are killing themselves from despair through drug overdose MAGA

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3 hours ago, akaWest said:

 

Obama stole money from taxpayers, gave it to Wall Street who then funneled billions to left wing political groups...let that sink in. 

Hold on did I just read that? Obama gave money to big fucking capitalists. He is a right wing capitalist who hates leftists and initiates fascist coups in Latin America.

You Americans are the biggest goobers.

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6 hours ago, Niku said:

Trade schools will also be free like it was in the 50s so no.

Giving people equality of opportunity actually ensures everyone makes the most of themselves and actually get into positions in society through merit instead of the rampant vile nepotism that plagues most western countries.

Honest question: Has Bernie promised to pay for trade schools or is that just in your personal fever dream?

That also leaves people who do neither trade school nor college in an even worse position. Beyond that, trade schools and colleges don't cost anywhere near the same. 

Second honest question: I know that Bernie's plan is that everyone could get free tuition to a state school. Yet state schools vary greatly in quality, and cost (meaning once again, that equality of opportunity is still not achieved). That also leaves the question of people who go to expensive private colleges. Does someone who went to the University of Southwestern Oklahoma, for example, have to pay for someone who went to  Harvard? How do Christian colleges work in this system? Surely the government wouldn't want to fund religious organizations. What about the postgraduate school, medical school, and law school? What is there trade school equivalent? If you really want EVERYONE to have the opportunity to make it in life, then you must pay for those, and the only way to do that would be once again, robbing the poor to pay for the potentially rich.

My point is this, if the argument is that we want 'equality of opportunity' when it comes to college, then the government will literally have to take over higher education and remove personal freedom in the space, or it will have to fund colleges with which it disagrees or provide hugely different quality of education, or that costs vary widely. If you are using ideological values and goals for this, instead of practical ones, then this system is way more complicated and downright impossible. You cannot have both liberty and equality.

5 hours ago, Niku said:

Also lol Obama bailed out wall st blah blah blah, no leftist actually gives a fuck about Obama. He is not our guy.

 

Unlike Reagan who exploded government spending and bailed out a fuck ton of banks, he is defs your guy.

You're right, Obama isn't your guy because you don't live in America (unfortunate for you, very fortunate for us). :kappa:

Also, Reagan was busy bankrupting your buddies in the soviet union to be fiscally conservative. Reagan was also bad on gun control and immigration! It turns out, I don't worship him as perfect, and he can still manage to be the best president since Calvin Coolidge imo.

5 hours ago, Niku said:

Liberal conservative dichotomy has been dead since like 2015 dude at least in America. At least outside of America everyone knows liberals are right wing conservative fucks

I would like to see you elaborate on that. But if that is actually what you got out of that article, then your IQ is in the mid-40s.

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5 hours ago, Niku said:

Bernie isn't taxing anyone you dumb fuck. Unless you're a drug company, higher education scammer  or an insurance parasite you're not losing anything and you'll be even richer because Bernie will actually bring manufacturing to America and modernise the country.

 

Meanwhile under Trump, the factories are abandoned, and the unemployed are killing themselves from despair through drug overdose MAGA

"[Insert Socialist leader here] will actually bring manufacturing to [Insert relatively prosperous nation here] and modernize the country!"

Where oh where have I heard that before in history? :thinking:

 

You're right, nobody was killing themselves under Obama, 2016, everyone was happy, but then as soon as Jan 2017 came around, BOOM everyone was overdosing. (Ignoring the fact that the unemployment rate is literally much lower now)

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Elizabeth Warren proposed gay marriage reparations this week. Is there no end to the insanity of the Dem 2020 pool? I swear they are being paid to be crazy by the Trump campaign. 

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