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4 minutes ago, akaWest said:

Supremacy and race realism are two different things. Do you think men are more genetically predisposed to violence than women?

Oh this is gross. I’m glad a dug a little more into the argument.

As if comparing gender to the pigment of skin is even remotely comparable LOL

 

what next we’re going to draw the conclusion that if you’re a white male therefore you’re less violent which means you’re actually more of a woman? Oof get me out of this thought bubble of arguments lmao

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1 minute ago, legendaryshotz said:

Oh this is gross. I’m glad a dug a little more into the argument.

As if comparing gender to the pigment of skin is even remotely comparable LOL

 

what next we’re going to draw the conclusion that if you’re a white male therefore you’re less violent which means you’re actually more of a woman? Oof get me out of this thought bubble of arguments lmao

We're talking about genetic predisposition not pigment. Sorry if it's too taboo for you and makes you uncomfortable. 

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17 minutes ago, akaWest said:

We're talking about genetic predisposition not pigment. Sorry if it's too taboo for you and makes you uncomfortable. 

Well I mean your whole argument is that a group of people’s genes is probably “more violent”, and it just so happens to be majority dark skinned people? Lol?

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2 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

Well I mean your whole argument is that a group of people’s genes is probably “more violent”, and it just so happens to be majority dark skinned people? Lol?

I said I believe genetics plays a part but more importantly so does culture. How do you expect things to change if you just ignore the facts that are in front of you. Posting victim studies and going "welp we're all the same" is disingenuous and does nothing to address underlying issues. We should be celebrating diversity and playing on each others strengths not trying to fit squares into circles because we're afraid of inequality of outcome.

Furthermore, we cannot address these issues with an open border policy. It undermines Blacks and Americans as a whole. 

 

 

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Genetics play a role in a lot of things, but I'm more concerned with the individual and try to avoid group think. If something isn't always true, then I'm not going to abide in that stereotype. Also, there are too many variables to simply point to the color.  Why are 1st generation Africans so successful in America? Seems to be culture and not race IMO. 

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1 hour ago, bman said:

beyond 3.0 aka stormfront

Big man with the verified tag...

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44 minutes ago, amo819 said:

Big man with the verified tag...

sell out mod...

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5 hours ago, Buffdaddy Jamal said:

Who said anything about importing asians? I want no more immigrants ever until america fixes itself. Everyone can fuck off equally.

Lol, I love the good ol fascist 'No more immigrints, we need to help our own out' schtick then when people literally advocate to help the poor with policies they respond with 'thats socialism no free shit, fuck the poor'.

 

Right wingers simply hate foreign poor people more than the poor that looks like them. All in all disingenuous shit heads.

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20 hours ago, Brad Pitt said:

No, you're the moron. You advocate that we let everyone into our country when we are tapped out with 326 million. Why don't you take some of these 3rd worlders in? Let's see you cram millions of people, have traffic congestion, over crowded schools, and ghetto cultures influencing your people. 92% white and only 24 million, fuck me, I am leaving the cess pool that America has turned into and moving to Australia. Now I know why Ogre1 moved there lol.

Conservative movement basically consists of anti social ******* who troll, grief and pretend to be brain damaged among the millions of other conservatives who are generally brain damaged.

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19 hours ago, akaWest said:

Oh you mean the fascist corporatists that support importing cheap labor thru our southern border in order to keep wages down? 

Shill for open borders OR shill against fascist corporatists because you can't do both you fucking brainlet.

America is defacto in charge of Latin America and the corporations govern their policies. You can give everyone a living wage (including all of latin America) if you stopped cucking for porky.

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19 hours ago, Buffdaddy Jamal said:

Yeah no shit we won't accept being treated like serfs. That doesn't mean you get to import millions of people who will work for a pittance with no tax.

How are you complaining about a racial/nationalist division of labour that benefits you? Fuck me lmao

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19 hours ago, akaWest said:

Benefiting at what cost? We spend 120 billion a year on illegals. I have no problem paying taxes if it's going towards the betterment of society. But in my opinion importing illegals is only undercutting perfectly capable working class individuals. 

I grew up working on farms, it isn't that bad. Some of it can actually be quite fun. 

You're literally crying that American workers (who for the most part have had more opportunities to better their lot than latin Americans) are competing with another countries' workers who do all your dirty work. Like wtf do you want, you're benefiting from literal white supremacy and you're complaining that SOME of the white working class is still doing as shit as the most oppressed individuals from latin America. 

 

19 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

I mean you don't just spend 120B on illegal immigrants and get nothing in return. I'm pretty sure if I looked it up it's a net positive financial gain for americans. However I do think there's a tipping point where it would be a net negative gain. But I don't think we're close there. And again I only think it's potentially undercutting those very hard intensive labor jobs, which not many americans work anyway.

And glad to hear that you enjoyed working on a farm, my grandfather in Poland still has one. It was cool and interesting for a little bit but theres no fucking way I'd ever go into that line of work lol, has the machinery and all and it's still overtime of work everyday.

Motherfucker, all this 'aid' that conservatives scream about actually enriches them. It's called a debt trap and it is done to annex another countries' economy and enslave them.

 

Morons have no clue how what USAID actually is. It is the arm of the CIA and the corporations.  

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18 hours ago, akaWest said:

Even the most left leaning study I could find says that it's between a 3.3-15.6 billion dollar net negative for the US per year https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-study-fatally-flawed One of their main gripes is that FAIR based their numbers off of 12.5 million illegals and PEW suggests there's only about 11 million. 

 

New study from Yale-MIT says that there's conservatively around 16 million and probably closer to 22 million illegals in the US. This is twice the number of illegals that Pew came up with. Factor that into the Cato study and the numbers change to 6.6-31.2 billion dollar net negative impact that illegals have on the United States.

 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0201193

Can you stop sourcing Nazi propaganda as arguments pls, you look like a sympathiser.

At best there is absolutely zero policy difference between the fascist Koch brothers and the Nazi FAIR people. Only Koch is fine with brown people working the fields in their own country, while FAIR wants brown people completely fucked off to another country and THEN to ship their slave labour produce.

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18 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

I'll give those a read in the morning to see what parameters they are using to get the numbers that they do, reading the about section of cato leaves me with an odd suspicion that it is right wing based lol

 

edit: lol yeah oh man founded by one of the koch brothers

CATO is a far right fascist Koch psy op. It isn't left at all

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6 hours ago, legendaryshotz said:

Genetics? Oh boy here we go. This is going to lead down a race IQ argument which has been debunked so many times. Nope nope nope.

Also I’m 99% positive those athletes who escape poverty have lower rates of crime than those who stayed in poverty. There’s just no way lol

Sporting 'heroes' can often thugs, criminals and rapists. Some are very vile people and display the same anti social traits as conservatives and their psychopathic narcissistic political heroes. 

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6 hours ago, akaWest said:

Supremacy and race realism are two different things. Do you think men are more genetically predisposed to violence than women?

No it isn't. Race realism is the biggest euphemism for Nazi shit head. You're a huge Nazi sympathizer right now.

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5 hours ago, akaWest said:

I said I believe genetics plays a part but more importantly so does culture. How do you expect things to change if you just ignore the facts that are in front of you. Posting victim studies and going "welp we're all the same" is disingenuous and does nothing to address underlying issues. We should be celebrating diversity and playing on each others strengths not trying to fit squares into circles because we're afraid of inequality of outcome.

Furthermore, we cannot address these issues with an open border policy. It undermines Blacks and Americans as a whole. 

 

 

This is such a load of Nazi sponsored horseshit. Violence is purely environmentally induced. In fact most of these disgusting talking points have been debunked endlessly in history. These talking points are cyclical and correlated with political repression. It's a sign of an eroding democracy and society.

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4 hours ago, pharmassists said:

Genetics play a role in a lot of things, but I'm more concerned with the individual and try to avoid group think. If something isn't always true, then I'm not going to abide in that stereotype. Also, there are too many variables to simply point to the color.  Why are 1st generation Africans so successful in America? Seems to be culture and not race IMO. 

America is a global hegemon and the peak of global capitalism, anyone within the confines of the US borders are privileged comparatively to the rest which is why so many chuds in this thread are afraid of people crossing the border including blacks and other US Hispanics. Authoritarianism has no identity.

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Racism - Check

Koch - Check

Nazi - Check

Republicans bad - Check

Fox News - Nope

Multiple posts instead of one multi-reply - Check

 

Niku, you are not hitting all of your talking points.  Time to step up your game.

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