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Yeah, fuckin kill the little innocent children MAGA.

 

Replace Trump supporters with asylum seekers.

I would love to see them replaced.

Dude you live in Australia. Go fight a kangaroo.

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False dichotomy. People that came in the 1900s didn't have the luxury of our generous welfare state. They actually had to work or starve.

Immigrants use less welfare and benefits than the average american....so not sure about that welfare state you're claiming unless you can give me some facts and sources?

 

And the classic "back in the day it was worse" claim. Jesus christ didn't you just upvote something about the current state of society that there has been an extreme decline in poverty? So wouldn't that apply to other aspects of current events as well such as having more money for assistance?

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Immigrants use less welfare and benefits than the average american....so not sure about that welfare state you're claiming unless you can give me some facts and sources?

 

And the classic "back in the day it was worse" claim. Jesus christ didn't you just upvote something about the current state of society that there has been an extreme decline in poverty? So wouldn't that apply to other aspects of current events as well such as having more money for assistance?

Show me where I stated immigrants use more welfare than Americans.

 

In general I would probably agree with you on most things concerning immigration. I didn't think it was fair to compare people that oppose immigration then to people that do now. It's not the same world. There are legitimate concerns and that should be addressed without calling people racist/xenophobic because I don't think that's their motive the majority of time.

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Gotta back it up with some examples bro. 'Far-left policies'.

 

You mean pro population pro worker policies? Those  ones? Universal prosperity? Jobs for all? Leaving no man, woman or child without healthcare? Those evil 'extreme' policies? You're a joke.

You need to learn how to have conversations with people.

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Show me where I stated immigrants use more welfare than Americans.

 

In general I would probably agree with you on most things concerning immigration. I didn't think it was fair to compare people that oppose immigration then to people that do now. It's not the same world. There are legitimate concerns and that should be addressed without calling people racist/xenophobic because I don't think that's their motive the majority of time.

Why not compare past immigrants to current? 99% of the problems that occurred to other immigrants in the past still apply today. Calling immigrants lazy, dirty, so on and so fourth are one of the oldest stereotypes in the book and people still do that gross shit today.

 

Sure, it may be a little easier to get by in current times but not by much. Still working absolute shit jobs for shit pay for 12-14 hour days just to make ends meet.

 

I agree that there are concerns with certain aspects of immigration, however with this current administration it’s pretty clear that they are indeed racist in some fashion, creating commercials depicting almost all Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers is absolutely insane lol.

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Giving water to a severely dehydrated person can actually kill them. A border patrol agent isn't trained to deal with it. She should have been hospitalized immediately. I don't know the full details yet, but I do know it isn't entirely border patrol's fault.

 

Dude, you're in fucking outer space...

She was neglected and put in a cell. In other words, she was murdered by the state.

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You need to learn how to have conversations with people.

Lol, I don't play nice with people who literally spew out vile psychotic Koch style talking points that demonize people as 'far left' for wanting to push for the liberty of ordinary people.

 

You don't have any arguments. I give you policies to your ignorant ass and you're sooking that I'm telling you a story that isn't a deranged Koch concorted 'evil SJW far left' garbage.

 

Your posts are a joke. All conclusion with no premise.

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Show me where I stated immigrants use more welfare than Americans.

 

In general I would probably agree with you on most things concerning immigration. I didn't think it was fair to compare people that oppose immigration then to people that do now. It's not the same world. There are legitimate concerns and that should be addressed without calling people racist/xenophobic because I don't think that's their motive the majority of time.

Dude, all these concocted 'concerns' are literally astroturfed and funded by billionaire Nazis who think they are living in 1930 to try to convince people like you that immigrants are shit so they can have their white ethnostate.

 

That Aka West kid posted a bunch of Nazi funded garbage earlier and I called him out. 

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You say the same things over and over, said the word Koch twice in one post!

When people spew the same vile nonsense that literally come from a few think tanks it's pretty hard not to.

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Lol, I don't play nice with people who literally spew out vile psychotic Koch style talking points that demonize people as 'far left' for wanting to push for the liberty of ordinary people.

 

You don't have any arguments. I give you policies to your ignorant ass and you're sooking that I'm telling you a story that isn't a deranged Koch concorted 'evil SJW far left' garbage.

 

Your posts are a joke. All conclusion with no premise.

https://www.scribd.com/document/395461117/Public-Charge-Comment-Daniel-Garza-The-LIBRE-Initiative#from_embed

 

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/The_Libre_Initiative

 

Kochs are pro mass immigration. How are you this dumb? I feel like you just google shit as you go and then make up the rest.

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Niku, just give up man.  Every time you post you surprise us all by looking like an evil bigger idiot.  Maybe you should work towards being a self proclaimed scholar of not being an idiot.

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Lol, I don't play nice with people who literally spew out vile psychotic Koch style talking points that demonize people as 'far left' for wanting to push for the liberty of ordinary people.

 

You don't have any arguments. I give you policies to your ignorant ass and you're sooking that I'm telling you a story that isn't a deranged Koch concorted 'evil SJW far left' garbage.

 

Your posts are a joke. All conclusion with no premise.

You're the only one in this thread who thinks anything I've said is vile or psychotic and you also don't know my political positions, so where you're getting all of this is from your own invention. You're welcome to ask me what I actually think about things and talk to me like a man, or you can continue lashing out at me like a child over a conversation I'm not even having with you. Make a decision.

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Niku is incapable of having a discussion without lashing out.  He is a mental midget, easily triggered and clearly does not have any understanding of history or politics.

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Par for the course though...when all else fails and the dopamine hit is experiencing diminished returns, resort to calling people Nazi's. I've seen it happen hundreds of times...it's the only thing left he can say that'll make him feel better. Should probably just delete his account and start over.

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https://www.scribd.com/document/395461117/Public-Charge-Comment-Daniel-Garza-The-LIBRE-Initiative#from_embed

 

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/The_Libre_Initiative

 

Kochs are pro mass immigration. How are you this dumb? I feel like you just google shit as you go and then make up the rest.

I was referring to the other billionaire that you sourced who was a Nazi. The Koch brothers aren't Nazis. They want to enslave everyone equally.

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You're the only one in this thread who thinks anything I've said is vile or psychotic and you also don't know my political positions, so where you're getting all of this is from your own invention. You're welcome to ask me what I actually think about things and talk to me like a man, or you can continue lashing out at me like a child over a conversation I'm not even having with you. Make a decision.

The only position I can get from you is that you are 'anti-left' whatever that means. You don't provide anything other than that. Oh you're probably a MAGA shit head, there's only one other predictable option. Provide an argument. Tell me why the democrats are suddenly 'extreme'? Bullshit claims.

 

Literally, all these arguments, sources, positions and talking points are all fabricated by billionaires and you people unwittingly parrot them haha. The NPC meme is perfect for the lot of you.

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The only position I can get from you is that you are 'anti-left' whatever that means. You don't provide anything other than that. Oh you're probably a MAGA shit head, there's only one other predictable option. Provide an argument. Tell me why the democrats are suddenly 'extreme'? Bullshit claims.

 

Literally, all these arguments, sources, positions and talking points are all fabricated by billionaires and you people unwittingly parrot them haha. The NPC meme is perfect for the lot of you.

Gun control is a good example of policies pushing too far left. This is in my home state:

https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_Initiative_1639,_Changes_to_Gun_Ownership_and_Purchase_Requirements_Measure_(2018)

 

This was passed a month ago. Read it and tell me the new storage requirements make any sense from a centrist position. I could become a class c felon (up to five years in prison and $10,000 in fines in WA) if a stranger who by law is not allowed to own firearms, breaks into my house, steals a firearm, and commits a crime with it. The only methods available to store firearms so that they're inaccessible and unusable to criminals who break in makes them inaccessible and unusable to the owner during an emergency, such as when a criminal has broken into their home to steal their firearms. There's more garbage in the bill but that stands out. It got passed thanks mostly to the democratic voters in the state. If you know anything about seattle you know it's by far the largest city and is nowhere near centrist, it gets more and more left every year.

 

I'll start you there and see how your brain registers stuff.

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Why not compare past immigrants to current? 99% of the problems that occurred to other immigrants in the past still apply today. Calling immigrants lazy, dirty, so on and so fourth are one of the oldest stereotypes in the book and people still do that gross shit today.

 

Sure, it may be a little easier to get by in current times but not by much. Still working absolute shit jobs for shit pay for 12-14 hour days just to make ends meet.

 

I agree that there are concerns with certain aspects of immigration, however with this current administration it’s pretty clear that they are indeed racist in some fashion, creating commercials depicting almost all Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers is absolutely insane lol.

I agree with the first part of your post, but let's consider who is saying this. The people I see saying this are not intelligent. They are what they bitch about. Lazy, dirty, dependent Americans looking for a scapegoat. Anybody that spends time with people from different cultures will realize that there is a variety of people within that culture. It's good to get to know people because they have a lot to offer. My best friends are first generation immigrants.

 

The middle part of your post is the American dream. I had to do shit jobs to pay my way through college(I still work 12 hours shifts doe). You're saying this is a negative but I don't view it that way. Minimum wage in this country, although not ideal, is still better than anything they have in their country. These people work with smiles on their faces. It's incredible and shows how lazy Americans are IMO.

 

The only concern I have with illegal immigration is the criminals and deadbeats. However I'll extend and olive branch and agree that Trump and some Republicans drastically exaggerate it. It's a small minority. They are playing to the xenophobic side of the right and it isn't healthy.

 

There also should be a limit to how many people can come. I'm not smart enough to know what that number should be, and inevitably the left would say it's too low and the right would say it's too high. Let's just agree we can't take everyone.

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 It's incredible and shows how lazy Americans are IMO.

Oh, the same America with, by far, the #1 economy in the world? With our people being so dumb and lazy, it's a miracle that we have been able to achieve and maintain this status for all these years. 3rd worlders are only here to take advantage of and free load off what others have built.

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Oh, the same America with, by far, the #1 economy in the world? With our people being so dumb and lazy, it's a miracle that we have been able to achieve and maintain this status for all these years. 3rd worlders are only here to take advantage of and free load off what others have built.

Americans have undoubtedly become lazy compared to generations past. But that's my opinion.

 

Saying immigrants are only freeloading is just as silly as saying all immigrants work hard. We have to use statistics if we want to generalize.

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