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owner's son i believe

Definitely makes you think that the truth is somewhere in between. It's popular to hate on E6, but I am not a fan of facts being obstructed by bias.

 

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. We're sourcing entertainment from Stellur's trouble and ethically speaking, it's wrong. 

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my legal name 

 

2.5k per month, because i'm OG and helped build this thing

They told me you would get 3k  :kappa:

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We have heard from @@Cratos and @@StelluR and now E6 themselves. Id really like to hear (read) what

@svspector

to say about the situation.

 

 

E6 has probably already taken Ayden and his family  :kappa:

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finally found the toss i was looking months for.

 

3:14:00

 

I know this gets thrown around this thread quite a  bit, but it never stops being relevant.

 

"Halo, we got Drama."

 

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And fwiw, I dont mind the idea that some players get more in contracts than others. That's fair in certain scenarios. Just dont renege on the price at the last minute.

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"We had never had a discussion with either of the two new players regarding salaries."

 

The argument here is that Stellurs saying Cratos told suspector the amount they would be paid, Cratos has denied that conversation ever took place so suspector is the one that would confirm or deny stellurs side of the story, but as our lord and savior lethul stated he has no beneficial reason to do that.

Stellur has to look out for himself here so I could understand why he would argue that he is worth more to the team, every single player should try to get as much as they can. Financial stability doesn't just go out the window because it's a video game. E6 should probably be more upfront with what they want from their players or atleast relay to those under contract that promising things during recruitment can cause problems before buying players out of their contracts. There should be a standard contract stating all this info that is sent to players being recruited. Players should ask what an organization would expect from them in return. Both parties made mistakes imo. (Please spare my family though seriously.)

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Adams comments are irrelevant if what Stellur said is true. You can't promise one amount and then say you have to earn it.

They can say whatever they want(even if it's a bit scummy they promised an amount) if they put an amount on a contract and not pay that then that would be a big problem.

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I think it's Stellurs, Cratos and E6 fault. Seems to be a lack of communication and looks very amateur. Why I think the org should have a middle man. A "Manager of halo" for a title to the role.

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Words mean nothing.

 

Unless it's on paper and signed for people can say they'll give you whatever they want.

 

Don't agree to anything unless the contract is in front of you and signed.

 

Like traditional sports, players won't play unless they've agree to terms and signed the contract.

 

eSports players should think no differently.

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Well they should have someone to manage the team that doesn't call players "kid" in a "press release" responding to unprofessional allegations...

 

They would never lower themselves over a disagreement though. Highly professional.

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Of course this would make B upset. Hearing a great thing like 3k from Cratos through Ayden, then 2.5k from Cratos which was then reaffirmed from the initial contracts sent to them. Then down to 1.5k and having to "earn" the raise somehow. Cratos oversold it. E6 owner screwed up. Jimmies were rustled. 

 

This is a really good summary.

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I haven't been here in a while but the thrill of shittalking E6 drew me back.

 

Their ownership is E6 logo tier trash. 

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Alright guys, yes I was dropped and it is a long story, but I have nothing else to do so here you go.

 

After the end of Summer Pro League Me, Eco and Suspector had agreed to be a to3 for the upcoming season. We ended up running with a few people and I had every intention of sticking with Eco and Suspector. Then Huke joined nV and E6 needed one so they asked Suspector and Suspector said he wanted to team with me so they just ended up offering both of us to team as well as $3k a month salary. Suspector really wanted to do it so I trusted him and a $3k a month salary so why would I turn it down. I would not have joined the team if i did not think we could do well. Once we agreed to join Cratos said actually the salary is $2.5k a month because the owner of E6 takes taxes out of it. Fast Forward and right before Chattanooga me and Suspector get our Contracts for $2.5k a month and we went to Chattanooga. We get back and we get a new contract for $1.5k a month. Me and Suspector said we aren't signing that $1.5k contract. Not sure why the E6 owner changed his mind about our Salary. Going from $2.5k to $1.5k. During this time I was pretty tilted and texted in our group chat that the reality is if Ayden and I were initially offered $1.5k a month we probably wouldn't be here. Which looking back was a shitty thing to say, but it is also true. I agreed to stick with Eco and would not have left him if this were the case. I left Eco because I thought we could be a good team and I would be getting a higher salary than if I were to stay with him on Liquid. So it was the smartest move for myself. Cratos offered us $3k a month fully knowing we would instantly disregard every and any other options about teaming. So our whole team gets in a call with the E6 owner a few days ago and the owner said he believes that Jesse and Carlos should be getting paid $2.5k while Ayden and I get $1.5k because they went through highs and lows together. I sympathize with Jesse and Carlos about all of the lows last season, hope you guys recover well, nah imagine. Ayden and I basically said that that is bullshit, every player should be getting the same salary. Also at some point in this call the E6 owner said how he could find out who all are family members are in a matter of 5 seconds, so that was pretty chill. Anyways at this point me and Ayden had been told 3 different salaries. So basically I was dropped because they don't want to team with someone if Its about the money, even though all Cratos does is brag about how rich the owner of E6 is. It is what it is and now i have AIDS. Also they will try to use a Sub for Pro League matches and Bench me, too bad for them they did not buy my contract from Liquid. So I will be playing. No emergencies over here xD, unless E6 pays someone 10k to break my fingers :\. Also they will be scrimming with a variety of people giving them the false hope of being picked up and then on the 23rd, when I leave they are planning on picking up shooter xDDDDDD

 

 

*Drops Mic*

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