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...On another note if you guys cared at all, Ace has decided he wants to run games with OpTic, so Spartan, Unlegit, Stellur, and I will be running games tonight.

 

Damn both teams with work great with those rosters

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Ace has decided he wants to run games with OpTic, so Spartan, Unlegit, Stellur, and I will be running games tonight.

Damn, Optic have went from shopping in the dollar store for players to shopping with the big boys (No offence to previous players)

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@@aPG did yall ever try u ace stellur spartan? cant remember if yall did and how it went.

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I'm very interested in Liquid with Stellur + Spartan, only thing I think this team needs is someone calling out what they need to do (kinda like snakebite does for CLG). This will prob fall on aPG as i've sort of heard him do it in the scrims so far. If they can all get on the same page I think they'll' work well. 

 

I think Optic provides Ace with the type of play style he wants and thats to be the Main Slayer and back with a group of guys he use to play with. I still think my ideal Liquid would be Ace, APG , Spartan and UnLegit. I think that team has the most upside. 

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I did recently say Optic fans shouldn't get deluded with the Naded hype into thinking he can actually make them compete with the Flame-Maniac duo, that was probably hasty, I can admit ahead of time that's probably unfair of me. Especially if they can get Stellur as a 4th, don't think they'll beat CLG or anything, but I've seen Maniac really can go off slaying and seems to be learning H5. Plus I'm sure Naded will teach them the game better and get the team working as a team better, is committed to the grind. Still not sure on Flamesword, but Stellur could make them pretty good, and they did hang with CLG at least sometimes as a totally new squad and rusty duo.

 

Maybe this is in part me marathoning the whole Optic Vision series recently, I get more of the obstacles and saw some good flashes from them (and saw them as people more), just couldn't get a good team going. I will say though, and Formal straight up called them out on it in the video series, is the lack of grinding and not being fully committed was pretty inexcusable when you're doing it full time and living in the house. A lot of excuses came from the two of them, either blaming the league format or the game each cup while they didn't practice enough or get a team fast enough, and lost to teams they should absolutely be beating, which Hecz kept pretty much saying to them. He showed a lot of patience. They turned it around for Last Chance, so hopefully they keep it up this time, and can lock in Stellur.

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Ace is probably the worst choice for Optic out of:

 

Spartan

Stellur

Jimbo (if they even tried)

 

Hope they don't go for Ace even if it means a waaaay better liquid squad.

 

Apg, stellur, Spartan, unlegit is good, but is Apg that difference maker that wasn't there for post worlds ALG?

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I still 100% believe that if optic adds either spartan or ace as their fourth, and they continue to grind that they could be a top 4 team. Obviously far from it right now, but I think its not that unbelievable.

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str8 sick said they're not an official team yet

Yeah I assumed that they weren't an official team. I'd like to put the vods up though since they were good games where all 8 players were taking it seriously. I label the posts unofficial when one or both of the teams isn't confirmed, then include the specifics (who's confirmed and who isn't etc.) in the post itself above the vods . 

I just can't figure out what I'd call them for the post title's sake. "OpTic vs 4 Random Pros" wouldn't really do it justice. Know what I mean?

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I still 100% believe that if optic adds either spartan or ace as their fourth, and they continue to grind that they could be a top 4 team. Obviously far from it right now, but I think its not that unbelievable.

 

There are lots of teams that can become top 4.  I don't understand posts such as this.  Its not like all the other potential teams are going to stop trying.

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Unlegit APG Spartan Stellur

 

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U A S S

 

U ASS

 

APG not even running with this team, just confirmed calling everyone on forums assholes for being down on Liquid.  :apg:

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On another note if you guys cared at all, Ace has decided he wants to run games with OpTic, so Spartan, Unlegit, Stellur, and I will be running games tonight.

We'll get to see your theory in practice with this group - if anyone doesn't realize it, that was the ALG roster that was going to happen but with eL Town in place of APG. That ALG roster didn't look great, so if 'core 3s' were the end-all and be-all we'd see this group struggle too, but I agree with you so I think it'll be an interesting group to see play together.

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There are lots of teams that can become top 4.  I don't understand posts such as this.  Its not like all the other potential teams are going to stop trying.

Eh, i don't think there are that many, maybe 6 or 7 that, in my opinion, could be top 4.

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Yeah that potential Liquid roster is essentially the ALG that broke up after 3 scrims with APG instead of El Town. I highly doubt it sticks.

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Was anyone on for the end of the OpTic scrims last night? According to someone on the Optic Subreddit Naded said that Spartan has a spot on the team if he wants it. Now I don't find this surprising, but would just like to see if anyone else heard this.

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Was anyone on for the ends of the OpTic scrims last night? According to someone on the Optic Subreddit Naded said that Spartan has a spot on the team if he wants it. Now I don't find this surprising, but would just like to see if anyone else heard this.

If true he should take it. I know he wants to win, but he could easily become a fan favorite with Optic, and be the "Scumpi" of Optic Halo.

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@@aPG did yall ever try u ace stellur spartan? cant remember if yall did and how it went.

No we didn't, I wanted to stay with Unlegit at the very least and solidify a solid 4th

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No we didn't, I wanted to stay with Unlegit at the very least and solidify a solid 4th

gotcha. thanks. 

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EG vs Liquid

 

Game 1 CTF coliseum 3-0 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/730274ea-c5dc-4adf-9ea5-d9daa1cac364/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 2 Slayer Plaza 50-40 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/65fe2e37-5d05-411f-b543-3f9a9880538e/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 3 Strongholds Eden 100 – 88 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/64f336a7-a8d3-4630-8b3a-89208d04617b/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 4 Slayer Truth 50- 35 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/9f19df14-7398-41ff-b318-b92f1fc862bb/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 5 CTF Fathom 3-0 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/412a1ee2-ffc9-48ae-82c1-6f8fb5665c10/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 6 Slayer Coliseum 50 – 37 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/44a969de-203b-4776-9085-e0db0f4684db/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 7 Strongholds Empire 100 – 33 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/ac0acfbc-61a8-42e0-aaa5-703ff2c521d6/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 8 Slayer The Rig 50-35 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/7a0bb6d7-ccca-4595-bb64-c3c215e8cdf6/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 9 Strongholds Plaza 100 – 76 Liquid http://halo5arena.com/match/db1ad050-18f9-4a51-89f9-17a60843e55a/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 10 Slayer Regret 50-42 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/e8edaa32-999c-4e5b-ae63-fd9cf99118c0/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 11 Strongholds The Rig 100-55 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/3aec1f62-93e5-4d83-9bad-ec1425db835f/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 12 CTF Truth 3-2 Liquid http://halo5arena.com/match/698a5229-9015-40c2-af66-ce7ddce465fd/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

Game 13 Slayer Eden 50-31 EG http://halo5arena.com/match/b1e80910-a5a3-4311-b25f-7ba52164efc2/liquid-unlegit?timeplayed=2016-04-08&custom=1

 

EG 11 – 2 Liquid

 

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wanted to see how these two "squads" matched up

APG seems to die a lot.

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Ace is really good, and with him teaming with FS and Maniac before, they've got a lot of chemistry.

 

Chemistry > "Better Players" imo

 

That's why you saw teams like Allegiance and Elevate in the Top 4 at Worlds.

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APG seems to die a lot.

thats because he's the main obj players, or at least thats what the stats indicate 

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