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Dude. One of the great things about this community is that we actually get to interact with the pro's. You treat them like shit, and they disappear. just like @@Sal1ent did. and thats a sad day.

 

APG has spent more time over his career trolling on social media than he has actually practicing.  I'm pretty sure he can handle a little light jab.  It was actually a serious question.

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Snipedown is an excellent player, but his sniping skills are no longer enough to carry the team, since in H5 most pros can snipe

 

I feel like sniper doesn't work the same in H5 as previous Halos. It used to very much be anticipation/shotskill oriented. Now in H5 it is much harder to stay alive with snipe due to how fast players can collapse and have more movement options. (Edit:) The sniper has more bullet magnetism/aim assist ect.... so it is easier to hit shots with, but people are flying around like maniacs.

 

I believe the reason Royal 2 and Frosty make such great use out of it is really their ability to move the sniper around the map and stay alive with it. Royal 2 almost always empties the sniper before he dies. When CLG has sniper the player with it is rarely sitting back in "classic" snipe positions.

 

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I also, can't tell you how many times Snipedown picks up a sniper is immediately collapsed on and dies when his team doesn't have a setup. However with a setup rotation, and a sniper, he can absolutely carry a team.

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I don't consider someone with the most deaths in the league to be a great slayer. 

you die when you play obj, which he's the 4th best at (obj stats only)

 

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there's his slayer k/d rank among the HCS 

 

yeah maybe you're right lmao

 

good slayer, not great

 

 

If Ninja was an OBJ god, then his team would have better records than 11:11 (CTF) and 9:9 (SH) for the course of the season.

:wutface:

 

 

last post i'll make on the subject because i don't want to see like a fan boi

 

 

I guess Ninja is better than Snipedown too.  

 

If you think the 4 teams that qualified for playoffs are automatically the best 16 players in the game, lol

don't @ me with stupid shit again please

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Pro's YouTube channels (list of the ones I'm subbed to anyways - I may be missing some). Make sure to SUBSCRIBE to all of them, and WATCH all of their videos, then LIKE them all. The reason a lot of pros quit/didn't start their YouTube grind is because they weren't seeing results from them. Everyone should be helping them make some money from it by watching the full video (put it on in the background when you're doing something else and mute it if you don't want to watch the entire thing). Like it to help it become more "popular", and subscribe so you can always do the same thing for all of their videos.

 

Pro Players/Notables:

@@RyaNoobhttps://www.youtube.com/user/areallygoodnoob/videos

@@Arkanumhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWhjSNQYSgn5fyKBtSYrgA/videos

@@Assaulthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC0QCZ2ZrIVppWrVqzraK7g/videos

@@Mikwenhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv_G02MenUEmyU5rBPxc4NA/videos

@@BUK 20/@@BUK 57https://www.youtube.com/user/BUKsTV/videos

@@Chighttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPYKEkL0910QEeKOzLPvcuA/videos

@@Str8 SicKhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TheRealStr8Sick/videos

@@Cratoshttps://www.youtube.com/user/cratosayala10/videos

@@Snip3downhttps://www.youtube.com/user/EDWSnip3down/videos

@@Heinzhttps://www.youtube.com/user/HeinzHalo/videos

@@iGotUrPistolahttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5BR4lmhZV8l3-KdIX7wpcA/videos

@@Jimbohttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCSbNR8LchuAI6BtuiWBHXw/videos

@@Royhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgSuSLVOiBV6Ib4gQHLVmNA/videos

@@LifeStylehttps://www.youtube.com/user/holymolyitmustbe/videos

@@LethuLhttps://www.youtube.com/user/lxthul/videos

@@bubu dubuhttps://www.youtube.com/user/MLGbubudubu/videos

@@Nadedhttps://www.youtube.com/user/SVNaded/videos

@@Ninjahttps://www.youtube.com/user/NinjasHyper/videos

@@Acehttps://www.youtube.com/user/AceElam/videos

@@Flameswordhttps://www.youtube.com/user/OpticFS/videos

@@MaNiaChttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqabFRJaz-PzZ5PbZRWeICA/videos

@@Randahttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfJ1GCLRikEaxD141pJ9qtA/videos

@@Shooterhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7_cOOxOyOSDczp7-fN-lEQ/videos

@@Cloudhttps://www.youtube.com/user/skhCloud/videos

@@SnakeBitehttps://www.youtube.com/user/SnakeBiteFPS/videos

@@Spartanhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtwrkh8fFFyMvA-GEbvCPtw/videos

@@Toweyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TheRyanTowey/videos

@@Prototypehttps://www.youtube.com/user/TiZyPeGaming/videos

@@Tsquaredhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TsquaredMLG/videos

 

Organizations (that post Halo content occasionally)

CLG - https://www.youtube.com/user/CounterLogicGaming/videos

Optic (where Vision is posted + other videos with Halo guys) - https://www.youtube.com/user/OpTicNation/videos

Enigma 6 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWpnPW0WRA0RxQUVpbLlc5w

Team Liquid - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLSWNf28X3mVTxTT3_nLCcw/videos

WinterFox - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6tagoNjrYkek31zB1EmQ4g/videos

 

Other Notables

ESL Halo - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC67pks9fBCtedXr-_J1W3AA/videos

Halo - https://www.youtube.com/user/HaloWaypoint/videos

Team Beyond - https://www.youtube.com/user/GoBeyondEnt/videos

HCS Now - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3hYeubqZlkGheM1o4culkQ/videos

Optic HecZ (mentions Halo team in a lot of his VLOGs) - https://www.youtube.com/user/HECZWE/videos

Optic Hitch (mentions Halo team in a lot of his VLOGs) - https://www.youtube.com/user/Hitchariide/videos

@@FormaL (mentioned halo a few times in his VLOG's and has put up a couple halo videos - https://www.youtube.com/user/FormaLCoD/videos

@@throoperhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxlGT7w1uFitLTg-xz9Z3jw (The Pit is released on this YouTube Channel)

@Kephrii (former pro) - https://www.youtube.com/user/Kephri1/videos

@@KingNickhttps://www.youtube.com/user/HaloFan220/videos

@@TheSimmshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8RZ9z4gzwByl3QNigVC-g/videos

@@TiberiusAudleyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TiberiusAudley/videos

@Walshy - https://www.youtube.com/user/WalshyCOM/videos

@@GoldenboyFTWhttps://www.youtube.com/user/GoldenboyFTWtv/videos

Great list dude!

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if his opinion meant anything at all i'd put some effort into my response. If Ogre 2 analyzed me and ninja that would (no god awful pun intended) hold weight. I would respectfully submit a well thought reply. He doesn't understand Halo well enough to hold an opinion worth arguing.

I am not a fan of the holier than thou attitude. 

 

You never see Snakebite talking shit to fans. 

 

(You're basically calling a lot of your fans idiots)

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if you think roy/shooter/penguin is better than ninja you need to seek help

 

 

ninja had the second best OBJ stats for CTF and had the fourth best OBJ stats for SH

 

and in pure ninja fashion, #5 in kills, #2 in assists but #1 in deaths

 

 

(the deaths prolly had to do with him being an OBJ god for renegades)

 

I don't watch shooter so I just put him there because he's seen more success recently. I believe somebody on rng said that penguin was the best on their team and multiple pros have said Roy is a top player.

 

If you read into stats that deeply I can't help you

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my bad, i forgot how good roy is when he's losing to RNG at worlds and sitting on his couch during pro league finals

Since ninja was outplaced by 3 teams at worlds I guess he can only be 13th best at most by your """""logic""""
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I feel like sniper doesn't work the same in H5 as previous Halos. It used to very much be anticipation/shotskill oriented. Now in H5 it is much harder to stay alive with snipe due to how fast players can collapse and have more movement options.

 

I believe the reason Royal 2 and Frosty make such great use out of it is really their ability to move the sniper around the map and stay alive with it. Royal 2 almost always empties the sniper before he dies. When CLG has sniper the player with it is rarely sitting back in "classic" snipe positions.

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I also, can't tell you how many times Snipedown picks up a sniper is immediately collapsed on and dies when his team doesn't have a setup. However with a setup and a sniper, he can absolutely carry a team.

Yeah you are right, back in Halo3 Snipedown would win games for his teams just by having a hight percentage of impacts with the weapon.

Now in Halo5 doesn't work that way, and having great pistol isn't that relevant since we have AR, SR ands SMGs. Snipedown is having problems adjusting to the skillset needed in this game, his good aiming isn't good enough anymore.

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Since ninja was outplaced by 3 teams at worlds I guess he can only be 13th best at most by your """""logic""""

:wutface:

 

 

but yeah i'm comfortable with 13-16 rank for ninja

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:wutface:

 

 

but yeah i'm comfortable with 13-16 rank for ninja

You said Roy was worse because his team lost by one game to renegades and his team didn't qualify (online) for the recent tournament. What am I missing?
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VoD from last night's ASTRO Spartans 2v2 :fire:

 

 

Spectator mode worked last night, got a job lead this morning, delete my account boys we made it. 

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APG has spent more time over his career trolling on social media than he has actually practicing.  I'm pretty sure he can handle a little light jab.  It was actually a serious question.

 

I think you need to reassess what you definition of "Light jab" is.

 

I feel like sniper doesn't work the same in H5 as previous Halos. It used to very much be anticipation/shotskill oriented. Now in H5 it is much harder to stay alive with snipe due to how fast players can collapse and have more movement options.

 

I believe the reason Royal 2 and Frosty make such great use out of it is really their ability to move the sniper around the map and stay alive with it. Royal 2 almost always empties the sniper before he dies. When CLG has sniper the player with it is rarely sitting back in "classic" snipe positions.

 

Definitely not.  Its easier to use for sure. Even I can get headshots with it, so that is really saying something haha.  Halo 5 is definitely more "rotation based" than "Setup based" compared to previous titles too.

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You said Roy was worse because his team lost by one game to renegades and his team didn't qualify (online) for the recent tournament. What am I missing?

the same thing as that very smart young gentleman who said "well i guess you think ninja is better than snip3down"

 

c'mon man

 

 

i wish we had finals lans stats............................................................................................................

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Spectator mode worked last night, got a job lead this morning, delete my account boys we made it. 

 

Did ESL hit you up to cast after reading your season finals feedback?

 

:simms:  :weback:   :simms:  :weback:   :simms:

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the same thing as that very smart young gentleman who said "well i guess you think ninja is better than snip3down"

 

c'mon man

 

 

i wish we had finals lans stats............................................................................................................

Ok, a pro player was surprised that you said anybody who thought Roy was better than ninja was crazy. To counter that, you said that Roy got outplaced in one lan and didn't qualify for another.

 

Oh, and you brought up stats, which anyone who understands halo well enough to get past gold in arena should take with a mountain of salt.

 

What am I missing?

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Halo 5 is definitely more "rotation based" than "Setup based" compared to previous titles too.

 

This is the central reason imo that RoyBox haven't put down the hurt quite the way they used to. I think the advice "slow it down" is way less useful than it has been in previous Halos. Holding down an area and letting nobody through is really hard because of the movement options available. I think Lethul said it best one time when he was describing Maniac's gameplay way back when he was first dusting off the controller. "He just plays so slow.. You have to fly in this game." It's more like Quake, less like Counterstrike.

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Was google imaging "Rostermania Halo" to locate some  :dank: memes, found this instead  :simms:

 

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:wutface:

 

 

but yeah i'm comfortable with 13-16 rank for ninja

Unsure of it's merit but Fantasy HCS has Ninja 13th overall in points(I'm sure you are aware since it's you Moses). So...13-16 could be viable imo

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TB: Cratos is a top player because he is always on good teams.

*8 hours later*

TB: Ninja is not a top player despite being on good teams.

Nobody is saying ninja isn't a top player. People are disputing the idea that there couldn't possibly be 16 players who are as good or better

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Yeah you are right, back in Halo3 Snipedown would win games for his teams just by having a hight percentage of impacts with the weapon.

Now in Halo5 doesn't work that way, and having great pistol isn't that relevant since we have AR, SR ands SMGs. Snipedown is having problems adjusting to the skillset needed in this game, his good aiming isn't good enough anymore.

I'm not sure how to take this?

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