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Neither of your arguments are actually very strong, and are constructed on logical fallacies or an inability to separate the notion of Bad Design from Bad Balance.

 

You've assigned arbitrary amounts of how each weapon contributes to different skill sets in the game, and asserted your arbitrary numbers as hard data to back up your own assumptions and feelings about the weapons.

Wait a second...

 

The only time in which I "assigned arbitrary amounts" was when I was explaining a concept to ATP and I said, "this will be HUGELY OVERSIMPLIFYING it but I will try to explain with numbers".

 

are you saying that I presented numbers as "hard data" that I just said were HUGELY OVERSIMPLIFIED?

 

I can respond to the rest if someone teaches me how to do the spoiler quote thing but I'm not sure I want to if this is how you're going to misrepresent what I'm saying.

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You're saying the people who have problems with Halo 5 don't play the game that much? Who would've thought...

I sense some insecurity in your sarcastic statement.

 

I never said "people who have problems with Halo 5" I said "people here talking about game play". If you don't like the game don't play it. If you want the game to be better, and want to critique it, please play it a decent amount before thinking you know everything.

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I sense some insecurity in your sarcastic statement.

 

I never said "people who have problems with Halo 5" I said "people here talking about game play". If you don't like the game don't play it. If you want the game to be better, and want to critique it, please play it a decent amount before thinking you know everything.

What if people played it a decent amount and then have negative opinions on it?

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What if people played it a decent amount and then have negative opinions on it?

I don't see what's wrong with having a negative opinion.

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I don't see what's wrong with having a negative opinion.

Great. I'd be willing to bet that most of the people here, with negative or positive opinions, have played halo 5 a good amount

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You're saying the people who have problems with Halo 5 don't play the game that much? Who would've thought...

I probably play more than most in this thread.

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This should be a solid read.

Can't wait to read about how everything that has happened negatively in his career wasn't his fault

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Catching up on the last 20 pages might have been the worst decision of my life. I understand where everyone is coming from, but time and again it has been proven that 343 is going to implement what they want (that is their prerogative). I am just happy that they are willing to listen to feedback from pros (though I wish it would go somewhere). 

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So are Cratos and him actually going to 1v1? Anyone want to bet on the results?  :lxthul:

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Quoting you both because neither of you remember why my comments were made in the first place. It was in response to someone else making it clear that they didn't understand collective bargaining' goals. I was not saying the players should unionize/would be able to succeed.

 

I don't think it's possible to argue that 343 have turned a profit with their venture in comp Halo. They've given away nearly $3m on prize pool alone. Team skins might have recouped some of that cost but I would be interested to see those sales and they could have gone another direction with limited / prestige skins and still made bank.

 

Pros have little to no leverage.

Pros rely solely on developer lead tournaments / leagues.

Pros aren't going to boycott en masse.

 

I'm all for pro players coming together to give their feedback as a body but anything outside of that is a fantasy.

Whether or not they're turning a profit on it up to this point is irrelevant. It's something they clearly want to do. That's what matters.

 

You're not taken the Golden Rule into consideration, do you know why Roger Goodell and the Owners always get the better deal of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, again it's because those with the Gold make the Rules.

 

This probably will go over your head but the only difference between "Pro" players and "AM" players is the title they were given.

... Why would that go over my head? Are you trying to insult me?

 

the point I was making is that the pros are good enough to draw a crowd (little as it may be). The AMs will not draw the same size crowd.

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Do players have mental blocks against other players in this game?

 

I know it definitely existed in H3, but what about H5?

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Do players have mental blocks against other players in this game?

 

I know it definitely existed in H3, but what about H5?

I'd imagine so. I've never attributed a mental block to the specific game.

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I've been off comp halo for like the past 2 months.

What are people mad about now? Judging from what I've skimmed I'm guessing season 3 is starting. Pros summit happened to test settings. No one liked settings. So people are defending or up in arms about the new settings 343 want us to try before we complain.

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Do players have mental blocks against other players in this game?

 

I know it definitely existed in H3, but what about H5?

I mean, the old EG had last 21 consecutive tournament/pro league games to CLG. Their last win was at Xgames (6 months ago).

Every other team at least takes a game off of them from time to time.

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When 343i tests a sword on coli, scattershot on plaza, riptide slayer (again), but refuses to test no radar......

 

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Can't wait to read about how everything that has happened negatively in his career wasn't his fault

Equally excited for the chapter on Tens0r and Tetra Shot.

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Can anyone tell me why i'm lagging on 60mb download and only in this game? Also if Nadeds book reads anything like his website. I look forward to reading more about his storied pee wee baseball career and all the times he made teams implode.

 

Quality of gaming isn't just about bandwidth. XBOX/Microsoft state that at minimum you need 1.5 Mbps download and only .5 Mbps upload to play online multiplayer. I would say the real minimum to play H5 without bandwidth issues is 5 Mpbs down and 3 Mbps upload.

 

Since it sounds like your bandwidth is fine next step is check your ping. The ping is the reaction time of your connection–how fast you get a response after you've sent out a request. A low ping means a more responsive connection, especially in applications where timing is everything like video games. Test your ping at: speedtest.net

 

Lastly is jitter. Jitter is pretty much the consistency of your ping. I will use myself as an example on this one. I live in downtown Chicago: I pay Comcast for the premium package so I get 90DL/30UL and a lot of gaming servers are located in or near Chicago so when I run speedtests my ping is usually 10-15 (very strong). The problem with living in Chicago is that there are 9 million people here. During high traffic times when millions of people are spamming the servers with data requests my ping, on average, is usually still strong but it could jump to 120-300 for a few seconds which causes the in game experience to deteriorate rapidly. 

 

Disclaimer: I'm not an engineer or networking specialist just someone who's been troubleshooting video game internet connections for 15 years.

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Can anyone tell me why i'm lagging on 60mb download and only in this game? Also if Nadeds book reads anything like his website. I look forward to reading more about his storied pee wee baseball career and all the times he made teams implode.

Because micro$oft has servers in like 3 cities on each coast and if you don't live in that state you're fucked. I get 80 ping to MS servers at best even though I can get <20 ping consistently when I play CSGO.

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... Why would that go over my head? Are you trying to insult me?

 

the point I was making is that the pros are good enough to draw a crowd (little as it may be). The AMs will not draw the same size crowd.

It wasn't an insult but I just knew it would have gone over your head, what's escaping you is that it's not the players that draws the crowd, but instead it's the title "Pro" that does.

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Remember the one time ESL teased an announcement soon 3 or 4 days ago and we've heard nothing since? Good times... Good times.

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As much as I don't really want to get drawn  into the game play debate. No one seems to be saying what I think, so I'll just have to say it myself.

 

Radar: H5 without Radar just seems weird. Trust me, get into a close range fight in Team Snipers, or even just dubs (they both don't have radar) and you will see, clamber and the vertical nature of the maps makes no-radar seem just bad. It also may have something to do with what seems like a low field of view in H5 compared to old Halos (I could be wrong though). Also if you think spartan charge is bad with radar it would be 100% worse without it.

 

Autos: I don't have a problem with the AR starts at all honestly (the only time it will 100% win against a pistol is at REALLY close range), at mid range a player with a good pistol shot can easily have a chance if not the advantage. What I don't like is the 8 smgs and Storm Rifles on EVERY map. So I would REALLY like if 343 reduced the amount of pick up autos on each map/changed their spawn time and reduced ammo for them.

 

In H6 if 343 keeps the autos playing a major role in gameplay I would like 343 to make them more like CoD (I know I know), or CS:GO autos. Where they take skill and have almost no aim assist.

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