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  1. 1. Would you be a part of a FPS Hub dedicated to Education? (Pros and Fans Together)

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Hey Halo Community! I wanted to get some opinions on my recent kickstart project and maybe even a couple ideas. Brake and I want to start a FPS Hub that teaches players How to dominate the Game. We have come up with ideas to make it so the Pros actually make a living off the game and the players who want to advance and learn can do that too.

Our entire idea is posted here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1774283951/halo-4-lessons-needs-you

 

 

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When Halo 4 came out, MLG, the only major league for Halo, dropped the game off the circuit leaving players out of their major income. We have come up with new ideas on how players can make monthly money and we have also created cool things that gamers want to see. We want to start a community based website that can thrive through learning. We have a way to allow pro players and other experts to make money by teaching players who want to learn. 

We want to start an FPS Hub that starts with Halo and progresses to other major First Person Shooters like Call of Duty Ghost, Battlefield 4, and new titles like Destiny to allow the players to make new income just from being good at the game and teaching their knowledge to players that want to advance themselves. With this website we believe we can build a great community that can interact and learn from their favorite Pros or Gamers while also keeping them up to date on Tournaments and Game Title Updates.
Some of our ideas for this Website include:

Video Section – We wanted to create a way for both paying members and free members to be able to enjoy our website. This video section allows all members to be able to post their videos and the community votes up or down on their video similar to how reddit works. The highest voted videos are on top while the lowest voted are on the bottom. This allows people that do not have a following or are not known on places like youtube to be able to get their videos seen to gain that following or to get a high amount of views on their videos. This sections vote system will be updated daily or can be set to any other preferable settings like having the video section update towards categories like Most skilled (Weekly reset), Clip of the Day (reset daily), Most Popular Videos (Weekly reset), Gameplays (Weekly Reset), etc. When uploading videos you can embed your video from youtube or you can upload the video directly to our website. We will have our own comment and rating sections with specific features like “Expert Comments/video responses” that expert players can give reviews or feedback on uploaded videos. The Experts will also be able to upload videos for the Multiplayer Guides, their own Inner Circle, and on the Free Tips section that is for all members. 

Multiplayer Guides – We want to help expand our knowledge from Halo and Tournaments into all other games and eventually make every shooter game become E-Sport worthy. This way players can make a living off the game and won’t have to rely on Tournament Leagues to give them their major income. The guides will be done professionally by us alongside the Pro Players and Experts. We will use our methods and tactics we have gained through our teaching in Halo to help us break down every shooter game in depth and teach specific skills for that game. Our guide uses a simple college format that gives players 101 courses (Basic) all the way up to 103 courses (Advanced) in every Topic the game has such as weapons, maps, skills, team game, individual, ect. The way the Experts and Pro Players would help is by submitting tickets for guide additions, revisions, or adding tips. We already wrote up an entire 100 Page E-Book that will help the new Experts and Pros to know topics to cover for the game they are on. Every guide will be preformatted by us before the game comes out so all experts and pros can see what they can help with from the start. After the launch of the game the guide will be updated continuously. This website will have Guides for Battlefield 4, Call of Duty Ghost, Destiny, Halo, and every other Major FPS Game soon to come! 

Affiliates - To help out all players even more we will make an affiliate section for players to get money for promoting the guide or a players inner circle. Anything a person signs up for through their referral link will make them money. As affiliates, people will get banners and other deals to promote specifically designed to make the customer pay less and the affiliate get more. Everyone participating in our affiliate program will get 10$ per guide sale and a percentage on inner circle sales, both including recurring charges.

Inner Circle (Pro Players) – The inner circle is a section where the Fans subscribe to the Pro Players that they choose. For 10$ a month the player can be on the pros friends list, play with the pro to get good skilled games played, get direct help through pros going over their gameplays, and get exclusive content from the Pro that shows new tips and tactics on how to play the game. We already personally know all of the Pros who play Halo so it will be easy to get them together on a very well designed website. We also want to create special deals for people that want to upgrade to more player’s inner circles like making it $15 a month for two inner circles. Small things like this we believe will really help unite the community. The inner circle was a product we created that the customer wants and the Pros benefit by doing. This, we believe, creates a type of culture around the player and the pro where they can actually become cool with each other and really thrive through this. This will help fans and competitive players alike to get a better experience out of gaming. (Especially when you fly across the country to Tournaments and you don't really know anybody.)

Experts (Guide Contributors and Clip Collectors) – Experts are players who registered to our website and submit clips to the guide. These players will have to fill out forms and be picked by us to become experts on our website. We will give the experts flexible options to leave Tips, Guide Revisions, Clips, and even full Videos of their knowledge for which they will receive money for. We want players to help support the growth of the guides through their own special knowledge of the game. The experts section allows all players a chance to make money for submitting their knowledge, videos, and clips. 

Money and Point System – We will give the pro players and experts money and points (for our website) to help us get exclusive content out to the fans. The money will be cashed out whenever the expert decides to take it from the website and the points will be used to track the main contributing experts. This point system will include strategic ways of helping both parties such as: If a player submits a lot of great clips but doesn’t have their own capture card, then after a certain number of points a capture card will be sent to them. This allows us to spend money on worthy investments to allow hard working players the ability to be able to create more content for the Fans and the Website. 

Thanks for taking the Time to Read this and Thanks for all the Love and Support!
 
 

 

To the Halo Pros (If they read the forums) - I will be messaging all of you about supporting this idea because it is based around you guys. If you have any questions about the Hub then message me or email me @ [email protected] 

 

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Before all the drama went down on THC I remember a post from Nexy about THC's future.. one option was to focus more on competitive gaming and less focus on Halo exclusively. They wanted to become a gaming council for various games, and I loved that idea.

 

Now I read what you wrote, and it sounds great. I just don't know about how the delivery will go. This somewhat shares the same basic vision which I've had for a while, so I'm debating about helping out. I'll tell you what though, $5,000 is pretty steep and donating $1k basically gets you a story? Not going to get a lot of backers with what you guys are offering.

 

Expect people to think this is a scam, expect people to say it will fail.. It sounds good on paper but I really can't see where you guys will be once you get that $5k. I also don't see the demand in lessons like we used to back in the day, but who knows.

 

For anyone looking to start this up, the best bet is to not be halo exclusive.

 

 

 

I feel like I've played you and braaaaake plenty of times throughout the years too, but anyway, I'd like to talk with you some more about what to expect, when to expect it. I've tried making proposals to the companies running halo 4 tourneys to stream a mini Halo CE tournament funded by me, but haven't had anyone get back to me.. so I guess you can say I'm pretty serious. I also try to promote a lot of Shadowrun privates and tournaments since they happen very frequently, as well as monday night combat because the game takes way more skill and teamwork than Halo does, but is very under rated.

 

so maybe with some more details I'll invest.

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I wish beyond would be willing to help support other titles on their main page. I could get some decent FPS video from various titles and even get commentaries. Would it bring in a lot of traffic? Probably not.. but it would add variety to the site.

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I wish beyond would be willing to help support other titles on their main page. I could get some decent FPS video from various titles and even get commentaries. Would it bring in a lot of traffic? Probably not.. but it would add variety to the site.

 

We have covered

  • Titanfall
  • Destiny
  • Call of Duty
  • Battlefield 4
  • Xbox One
  • Playstation 4

What more would you like?

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Before all the drama went down on THC I remember a post from Nexy about THC's future.. one option was to focus more on competitive gaming and less focus on Halo exclusively. They wanted to become a gaming council for various games, and I loved that idea.

 

Now I read what you wrote, and it sounds great. I just don't know about how the delivery will go. This somewhat shares the same basic vision which I've had for a while, so I'm debating about helping out. I'll tell you what though, $5,000 is pretty steep and donating $1k basically gets you a story? Not going to get a lot of backers with what you guys are offering.

 

Expect people to think this is a scam, expect people to say it will fail.. It sounds good on paper but I really can't see where you guys will be once you get that $5k. I also don't see the demand in lessons like we used to back in the day, but who knows.

 

For anyone looking to start this up, the best bet is to not be halo exclusive.

 

 

 

I feel like I've played you and braaaaake plenty of times throughout the years too, but anyway, I'd like to talk with you some more about what to expect, when to expect it. I've tried making proposals to the companies running halo 4 tourneys to stream a mini Halo CE tournament funded by me, but haven't had anyone get back to me.. so I guess you can say I'm pretty serious. I also try to promote a lot of Shadowrun privates and tournaments since they happen very frequently, as well as monday night combat because the game takes way more skill and teamwork than Halo does, but is very under rated.

 

so maybe with some more details I'll invest.

Ok thanks for the Feedback seriously. How do I change the backers so It seems more Legit and less scamish?

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We have covered

  • Titanfall
  • Destiny
  • Call of Duty
  • Battlefield 4
  • Xbox One
  • Playstation 4

What more would you like?

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So basically this is an upgraded version of the gaminglessons.com is what I am gathering?

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We have covered

  • Titanfall
  • Destiny
  • Call of Duty
  • Battlefield 4
  • Xbox One
  • Playstation 4

What more would you like?

 

Needs more Wii

 

 

 

My honest Feedback: I feel like this idea would have worked in 2006 - 2010

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So basically this is an upgraded version of the gaminglessons.com is what I am gathering?

The problem with gaminglessons.com (That was T2's website right?) was that it didnt give the Pros incentives to do stuff so they didn't lol. They didn't see it as actually an income because it would be random when they got lessons scheduled. Where as we will be legitimately contracted with them to get money on a monthly basis, not even using lessons necessarily. The main thing is the Inner Circle where they add subscribers, play with them, and Do Gameplay Reviews to help them out. And the money they get depends on the work. If they get about 7$ a month per subscriber then its up to them to deliver the content to the subscribers. The more consistent content the more people stay, join, and pay. Which builds it up to an actual living off gaming that you can rely on monthly :)

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We have covered

  • Titanfall
  • Destiny
  • Call of Duty
  • Battlefield 4
  • Xbox One
  • Playstation 4

What more would you like?

 

I mean, since you're asking, a little more Viva Piñata content would be nice.

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The problem with gaminglessons.com (That was T2's website right?) was that it didnt give the Pros incentives to do stuff so they didn't lol. They didn't see it as actually an income because it would be random when they got lessons scheduled. Where as we will be legitimately contracted with them to get money on a monthly basis, not even using lessons necessarily. The main thing is the Inner Circle where they add subscribers, play with them, and Do Gameplay Reviews to help them out. And the money they get depends on the work. If they get about 7$ a month per subscriber then its up to them to deliver the content to the subscribers. The more consistent content the more people stay, join, and pay. Which builds it up to an actual living off gaming that you can rely on monthly :)

 

Yes, it was T2's. So how would you go about the scheduling of the lessons? Since you did mention that it was very random. Would you have each pro give what times they normally available so people can pick which pro based on the times? So if its $10 to be a part of the "inner circle" $7 goes to the pro, and 3 goes to you?  Sorry, just wondering on how some of these details here. Do you have a list of pros or have an idea of which pros or how many would be willing to do this if it were started? Thanks.

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We have covered

  • Titanfall
  • Destiny
  • Call of Duty
  • Battlefield 4
  • Xbox One
  • Playstation 4

What more would you like?

 

I probably should word it in a way where even saucey could put in thoughts or feedback...

 

I think it's great you guys are covering all of that. I view Beyond as mainly a halo community, but what you listed does benefit console/competitive gamers.

 

However you listed a bunch of games that haven't come out.. so it's cool seeing trailers/teasers but I'm talking about games that are out and being played.

 

Why not front page a solid XBC Halo 2 match that has commentary? Or get up some scrims from CS:GO? Hell MOBA's were NEVER my thing, but my buddies stream Guardians with his team and that had me very entertained. While I'd rather stay FPS based, I think you can find plenty of skilled videos from various FPS titles along with commentaries. I know I can provide a bunch from others.

 

like I said, the traffic isn't going to jump due to this, but you're at least you're giving some variety.

 

edit: Nocturnal I'll get back to you on my 2 cents on how what might need improving.

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I agree with this idea.

 

I think it'd be cool to get a learning center thing started at least. Just an area on the forums that really focuses on teaching and learning anything from basics to advanced gameplay.

 

Also a in depth guide on how to watch and apply knowledge from VoD.

 

Little things like this could make a big difference.

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Needs more Wii

 

 

 

My honest Feedback: I feel like this idea would have worked in 2006 - 2010

I think you feel that way because that was MLGs Prime but you have to remember, MLG Didnt even have pictures of Pros outside Top 3. Anybody that didnt compete didnt know who was actually Pro. This idea will make it so Pro Gamers actually have $omething to show for it and it will make players want to compete again simply cause its a real Job! Im sure 95% of the Pros who quit didn't do it because they sucked, they did it because lack of dedication. Why did they lack dedication? The money they recieved for gaming everyday non stop didn't equal the effort they put into gaming and finding good teams. We all remember that survey that basically said the cashier at McDonalds makes more money then the Pros. And thats all because Tournaments, Teams, and even Sponsors are too inconsistent to base your lifes finances on imo. So if we bring honor to being a Pro by actually giving them money to live off then the drive to be Pro increases and can help restore Halo to its top spot while setting the standard for all other FPS games and Pros that follow.

 

Also, Esports for FPS is only getting bigger Tournaments. Call of Duty had the million dollar tournament, Halo has a 500K tournament soon, and Im sure other shooters like Destiny/Battlefield will be big. So with E-Sports also becoming bigger the desire to be a professional gets bigger, and with that the desire to pay for improvement also becomes bigger.

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I agree with this idea.

 

I think it'd be cool to get a learning center thing started at least. Just an area on the forums that really focuses on teaching and learning anything from basics to advanced gameplay.

 

Also a in depth guide on how to watch and apply knowledge from VoD.

 

Little things like this could make a big difference.

Thanks for the Feeback, this helps answer my main question, How many people actually want to have an FPS Hub dedicated to education?

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I know this isn't a place to ask but I've been curious to what happened to THC. I've been out of the loop for months and come back to seeing everyone on Beyond Entertainment

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Yes, it was T2's. So how would you go about the scheduling of the lessons? Since you did mention that it was very random. Would you have each pro give what times they normally available so people can pick which pro based on the times? So if its $10 to be a part of the "inner circle" $7 goes to the pro, and 3 goes to you?  Sorry, just wondering on how some of these details here. Do you have a list of pros or have an idea of which pros or how many would be willing to do this if it were started? Thanks.

Ok there is 4 Different ways that Pros get paid. Lessons, Guide, Affiliate and Inner Circle. The Lessons would be a simple contact forum where the player gets in touch and can schedule the Lessons with the Pro they choose. and yea under the pros name they can have something that says "Times Normally Available". But in my mind its mostly between that Fan and the Pro to get things scheduled officially. Heres a very simple form of how the lessons page will look. http://www.halo4lessons.com/lessons

 

For the inner circle we will be contacting certain Pros for Deals and Specials to see who really wants to make this a Job. As we know some of the Pros are lazy or dont even have streaming/recording equipment. For those Pros we will cut deals where we record and edit their videos and they become a part of a group inner circle. For the individual inner circle, yes, it will be about $9.99 a month. The Pro will add you, do gameplay reviews(gameplay reviews have to be organized games they cant be infinity rumble), and play with you. Brake and I are currently doing this and People are more interested then I initially thought they would be, and were not even mainstream because we don't play anymore. The contract for getting them the inner circle subscribers will most likely be 80% them, 20% us. If there is an Affiliate who hooked the subscriber to the Pro then it will be 70% them 20% Affiliate and 10% Us. So we will only take about $1-2 from the Pro. As for the Pros I just launched this campaign and started promoting it. I will be contacting literally every Pro about it daily. Every Pro thats willing to do it will most likely be promoting it through twitter and kickstarter. I dont have an official list just yet but I will definitely let you know as this progresses who is down and who is hiding. Let me know if you need anymore details

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Thanks for the Feeback, this helps answer my main question, How many people actually want to have an FPS Hub dedicated to education?

Add a poll to this thread asking how many people want it and how many don't.

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I feel the success of this project hinges on how good/popular Halo 5 will be. Yes I agree eSports FPS is getting bigger but it's moving to those other games you mentioned, CoD, Battlefield, Destiny, and probably even Titanfall. Esports is moving away from Halo because so much has to be changed for it to be competitive. That's why I think your project wont really get traction until Halo 5 and that's only if Halo 5 is a good game.

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if halo was actually popular people would pay..maybe.... right now the skill gap isnt much to invest in

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