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Gotta love 343. But hey, they made a game that's not quite as shitty as Halo 4, so :weback:  right?

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Hey this is a spoiler thread, let's at least spoil this shit for anyone that enters.

 

From neoGaf:

 

 

what they told me...sorry but I'm just going to copy/paste so if you don't want everything spoiled don't click:

 

Well, the main story revolves around Chief trying to figure out why Cortana(!!) is drawing all these Guardians to her - which is destroying colonies as they leave. Locke is sent after Chief to bring him in not just because he left despite orders, but because Halsey thinks Chief wont' stop Cortana. Cortana ends up cured of Rampancy because she gained access to a Forerunner thing called the "domain" and asks any AI to join her cause. Tons do and they get cured of rampancy as well. So her master plan is to use Guardians as they were intended - giant planet police bots. Obey her laws, obey the peace, or else these massive things will murder. Chief tries to talk her down, but she doesn't listen and imprisons him in the same kind of thing the Didact was inside in Halo 4. She says she'll wake him up in 10,000 years. Locke tries freeing him, but the AIs join Cortana, she sends out all of her Guardians to planets, she's leaving on the like biggest Guardian and Locke frees Chief just as she's leaving. The AIs wipe out the electronics in all the stations and colonies they oversee. Roland (Infinity's AI) does not join Cortana. She finds Infinity, and they have to flee into slipspace repeatedly. Game ends as they are fleeing until they can think of a plan. Next cutscene is reunion between Halsey, Arbiter, and Chief. Short one, and that was about all there was to it. Final cutscene after credits is Cortana humming a tune, and a Halo ring in the distance. As she finishes humming, the lights on the Halo light up as if she's getting it all powered up again. So yeah, basically ends there almost on a cliffhanger - Cortana is a bad guy, planets everywhere are under siege by an impossible force to counter, and Cortana owns a Halo ring.

 

She doesn't hate Chief. She thinks he'll come around to it. She thinks that perfect peace is worth it, but she's ignoring the casualties of her actions. Blue team brings this up with Chief. Chief tells her that she's trying to improve people without giving them a choice - like what Halsey did to him. Cortana doesn't listen, basically. The main "bosses" you fight, are the same dude with tons of bodies. He guards the Guardians/Cortana. He wants to prevent Chief from getting to Cortana, and Cortana does not want him to kill Chief. So they argue. But yeah this Warden Eternal has a bunch of bodies. You fight one at once, then later two at once, then in the hardest fucking fight ever 3 at once without much cover at all. Absolutely brutal fight. Cortana also sounds different a bit. More robotic than she used to. However, she might also be in physical form now. Early in the game it's referenced she will be able to eventually, and near the end she seems to be glowing, but then the glowing parts fade - almost like they were a shield rather than her normal body details. Apparently, Locke was an assassin who once came up with a plan to kill Arbiter until "things changed". So I wonder if in Halo 6 Locke is sent to kill Cortana, and Chief wants to not only prevent that, but stop her actions too. Definitely reminds me of Halo 2's cliffhanger ending, not so much as it interrupts the story midway ,but really not much was resolved haha, and it feels like it was all a leadup to next game.

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Hey this is a spoiler thread, let's at least spoil this shit for anyone that enters.

 

From neoGaf:

 

 

what they told me...sorry but I'm just going to copy/paste so if you don't want everything spoiled don't click:

 

Well, the main story revolves around Chief trying to figure out why Cortana(!!) is drawing all these Guardians to her - which is destroying colonies as they leave. Locke is sent after Chief to bring him in not just because he left despite orders, but because Halsey thinks Chief wont' stop Cortana. Cortana ends up cured of Rampancy because she gained access to a Forerunner thing called the "domain" and asks any AI to join her cause. Tons do and they get cured of rampancy as well. So her master plan is to use Guardians as they were intended - giant planet police bots. Obey her laws, obey the peace, or else these massive things will murder. Chief tries to talk her down, but she doesn't listen and imprisons him in the same kind of thing the Didact was inside in Halo 4. She says she'll wake him up in 10,000 years. Locke tries freeing him, but the AIs join Cortana, she sends out all of her Guardians to planets, she's leaving on the like biggest Guardian and Locke frees Chief just as she's leaving. The AIs wipe out the electronics in all the stations and colonies they oversee. Roland (Infinity's AI) does not join Cortana. She finds Infinity, and they have to flee into slipspace repeatedly. Game ends as they are fleeing until they can think of a plan. Next cutscene is reunion between Halsey, Arbiter, and Chief. Short one, and that was about all there was to it. Final cutscene after credits is Cortana humming a tune, and a Halo ring in the distance. As she finishes humming, the lights on the Halo light up as if she's getting it all powered up again. So yeah, basically ends there almost on a cliffhanger - Cortana is a bad guy, planets everywhere are under siege by an impossible force to counter, and Cortana owns a Halo ring.

 

She doesn't hate Chief. She thinks he'll come around to it. She thinks that perfect peace is worth it, but she's ignoring the casualties of her actions. Blue team brings this up with Chief. Chief tells her that she's trying to improve people without giving them a choice - like what Halsey did to him. Cortana doesn't listen, basically. The main "bosses" you fight, are the same dude with tons of bodies. He guards the Guardians/Cortana. He wants to prevent Chief from getting to Cortana, and Cortana does not want him to kill Chief. So they argue. But yeah this Warden Eternal has a bunch of bodies. You fight one at once, then later two at once, then in the hardest fucking fight ever 3 at once without much cover at all. Absolutely brutal fight. Cortana also sounds different a bit. More robotic than she used to. However, she might also be in physical form now. Early in the game it's referenced she will be able to eventually, and near the end she seems to be glowing, but then the glowing parts fade - almost like they were a shield rather than her normal body details. Apparently, Locke was an assassin who once came up with a plan to kill Arbiter until "things changed". So I wonder if in Halo 6 Locke is sent to kill Cortana, and Chief wants to not only prevent that, but stop her actions too. Definitely reminds me of Halo 2's cliffhanger ending, not so much as it interrupts the story midway ,but really not much was resolved haha, and it feels like it was all a leadup to next game.

I'm 90% sure that's all bullshit
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Thats gotta be the worst possible script they could have came up with if true. I pray to god this is a troll. 343 is pulling a mass effect with the reapers.

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Yall all make it sound like Chief is the face of Halo. Never laughed so hard about anything.

 

 

You're right. He's only the person on the cover of the 4 main games in the series, so totally not very important. And it's not like a collection named after him was released last year or anything.....

 

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Hey this is a spoiler thread, let's at least spoil this shit for anyone that enters.

 

From neoGaf:

 

 

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I mean, I wasn't going to buy this game in the first place, but holy shit, that's bad. Who approved that script? I've read better fanfiction than that.

 

Thats gotta be the worst possible script they could have came up with if true. I pray to god this is a troll. 343 is pulling a mass effect with the reapers.

 

 

Honestly, if that's true, this is even worse than ME3's ending. And that shit was pretty bad.

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He probably misspoke. 

 

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Wouldn't be the first time.

 

EDIT: Rereading this makes me seem like a harsh dick. I really meant it as a light-hearted jab. Love you Franks.

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Players: "the H4 story was hard to understand without reading the books"

343i: "okay for H5 let's just write a story a five year old could come up with so they'll get it"

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How can you just take a character and completely turn their personality around after four games of development?

 

I mean, you've got someone like Kerrigan in SC...but that was 10% before and 90% after, whereas this is the exact opposite.

The funny part is, they could have explained this away via rampancy.

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The funny part is, they could have explained this away via rampancy.

 

THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 

 

I mean it makes perfect friggin' sense. 

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Cortana having a "bad guy" story arc isn't the issue. The issue is that the leak was filled with cliches and awful writing. The leak took something that could take place across a couple missions and stretched it out to become the full story with lots of filler. There is no arc to this story at all if it's true. Cortana is controlling the domain. She activates Guardians. Locke makes sure Chief doesn't deal with this alone because he is fragile. Find Arbiter. Cortana recruits AI. The end. How is that more than 2 missions and a little bit of exposition? No way that's the entire plot.

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Cortana having a "bad guy" story arc isn't the issue. The issue is that the leak was filled with cliches and awful writing. The leak took something that could take place across a couple missions and stretched it out to become the full story with lots of filler. There is no arc to this story at all if it's true. Cortana is controlling the domain. She activates Guardians. Locke makes sure Chief doesn't deal with this alone because he is fragile. Find Arbiter. Cortana recruits AI. The end. How is that more than 2 stories and a little bit of exposition? No way that's the entire plot.

Well, that's been the last three Halo games, if you want to get critical.

 

Like, seriously...lay out the basic plot of Halo 3. You can do probably do it in two sentences.

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Well, that's been the last three Halo games, if you want to get critical.

 

Like, seriously...lay out the basic plot of Halo 3. You can do probably do it in two sentences.

This is true. However, at least the simple linear direction of Halo 3 was well written and not entirely cliche ridden.

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Ehh, I'm entirely unimpressed with Halo 3's story.

 

In Halo 2, the Gravemind was set up to be a kind of philosophical anchor for the story, a kind of anti-hero (maybe an anti-antagonist?) that raised my hopes for Halo 3 being a very existentially-challenged experience. Instead, the Gravemind was just manipulating everyone strictly for its own benefit, a very boring Giant Monster™ to sum up Halo's first trilogy...not to mention the lack of a boss fight. Also didn't like the fact that the infighting of the Covenant and the relationship of the elites to the humans was never fleshed out to any great detail, it was all very barren.

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Ehh, I'm entirely unimpressed with Halo 3's story.

 

In Halo 2, the Gravemind was set up to be a kind of philosophical anchor for the story, a kind of anti-hero (maybe an anti-antagonist?) that raised my hopes for Halo 3 being a very existentially-challenged experience. Instead, the Gravemind was just manipulating everyone strictly for its own benefit, a very boring Giant Monster™ to sum up Halo's first trilogy...not to mention the lack of a boss fight. Also didn't like the fact that the infighting of the Covenant and the relationship of the elites to the humans was never fleshed out to any great detail, it was all very barren.

 

Sets up Halo 6 to be the Arbiter and Chief teaming up with the Gravemind and his "hosts" versus Cortana and her army of AI. 

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Sets up Halo 6 to be the Arbiter and Chief teaming up with the Gravemind and his "hosts" versus Cortana and her army of AI.

I literally just got the chills reading that. That would be so sick.
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Sets up Halo 6 to be the Arbiter and Chief teaming up with the Gravemind and his "hosts" versus Cortana and her army of AI. 

 

That's essentially what happened in Halo 3, though, which wouldn't tie up the story unless they went for an incredibly disappointing peace-with-the-machines-Matrix ending in which the Flood and other sentient races tentatively agree to leave each other alone.

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