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Halo 5: Guardians eSports/Arena Weapon Starts Poll

Arena Starting Weapons (constructive post gamescom thread)  

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  1. 1. Exports/Arena Starting Weapon Choices

    • Pistol + AR
    • Pistol + AR (AR nerfed)
    • Pistol + AR (Pistol patched to 4SK)
    • BR + Pistol
    • BR only
    • BR + AR
    • BR + AR (AR nerfed)
    • DMR Only / With AR (Is it viable over any of the above?)
    • Pistol Only


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So I have to choose between 343's CoD version of the BR and the fkn AR?? That is like choosing between Jeb Bush or Donald Trump for president, either way were gonna end up getting fucked in one way or another. Guess Ill take pistol/AR because Halo 5 is already a campy game in slayer and adding the H5 BR(which is basically a DMR at this point) would just make Halo 5 even more campy.

A vote for Trump is a vote for AR/4SK Pistol

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A vote for Trump is a vote for AR/4SK Pistol

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Very apt comparison actually, Trump will be our savior from the liberal and brainless Obama administration of drones that have occupied the Whitehouse for the last two terms, just as the Halo 5 pistol will rally the fanatical conservative Halo fan-base and offer REAL change and a return to what made Halo great and deliver us from the FAILED era of the liberal progressive BR-spread Halo administration! #MakeHaloGreatAgain #VoteARpistolcuzCE  :P Seriously though, vote Trump 2016! #Trumpmasterrace

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Before gamescom I was very 'competitive MUST have BR start' now I'm of the mind it must have Pistol starts to leave things like BR and SMGs as power/situational weapon choices for the users to pick up at thier discretion.

 

I think 100% Pistol only starts would also work but I think having that back pocket AR for utility is a great thing just for close combat and sticky situations but for sure it needs a nerf on power/range. I also love the idea of this 3 kills 1 clip idea from a 4SK setting, grabbing a triple kill with 1 clip should be as hard and skillfull as hitting 3 180's in a row in a game of darts. If we can make it even harder to aim to increase that gunskill gap and maybe slightly slow down the RoF to compensate for a 4SK setting I think Pistol + AR is without question the way forward and extremely balanced leaving the other weapons at users disposal to make use of how they see fit!

 

It also in thoery gives DMR/BR/SMG more purpose because it will give them a real need in certain maps and set ups and I'll look for people going to certain weapon/areas to lock down off the spawn. Kind of like how cod has AR/SMG players i think we'll see more individual play by players looking to secure a DMR and support/assist across map, grab SMG and lock down a certain area for defensive reasons. So much more diversity is going to open up imo.

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All I know is that watching people fight using the AR during the invitational made me yawn. Encounters just weren't interesting, and not being interesting (or having those dull moments be at least build up to some form a of climax) for any entertainment sport is a death knell. I voted 4sk pistol, since I miss the old CE days and hope NOT to see more AR in competitive (although I don't mind the gun itself in casual).

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Yeah I dont know why people want to see automatics in the competitive scene. There isnt much skill involved and its very very boring seeing players melt other players with an AR/SMG. Im up for keeping the pistol as the main weapon and have BRs/DMRs scattered around the maps so players can pick and choose depending on what strat they are going to try and execute next.

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Yeah I dont know why people want to see automatics in the competitive scene. There isnt much skill involved and its very very boring seeing players melt other players with an AR/SMG. Im up for keeping the pistol as the main weapon and have BRs/DMRs scattered around the maps so players can pick and choose depending on what strat they are going to try and execute next.

I think a lot of people will agree with this. Even the guys arguing in favour for AR only want them IF the pistol is buffed to 4sk.

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I voted BR....not because I don't think a buffed pistol + nerfed AR wouldn't work but because I don't see it happening. I truly do not see 343 making the pistol the utility weapon this forum wants it to be.

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A lot can change from now to October. We may yet see further changes to the game's weapon balance. IMO, regardless of what's decided here (if anything), when H5 comes out proper, we should take time to test a wide variety of settings, map rotations (including forge maps), gametypes, and weapon starts, and come up with something that's viable for both competitors and spectators. We have a lot to choose from, and regardless of what settings we eventually go with, proper testing is crucial it should not take an entire season (HCS replay rules) or even an event (Anaheim 2011) to realize that some things are FUBAR.

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I want the pistol to fulfill the medium ranged and CQC categories. 4SK, less range and the BR to be the "pistol". Go-to long range, accurate rifle, 4sk. 

 

I think I'd enjoy that the most. 

 

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I want the pistol to fulfill the medium ranged and CQC categories. 4SK, less range and the BR to be the "pistol". Go-to long range, accurate rifle, 4sk. 

 

I think I'd enjoy that the most. 

 

Also @@Moa @@CyReN @@Saucey

 

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All I know is that watching people fight using the AR during the invitational made me yawn. Encounters just weren't interesting, and not being interesting (or having those dull moments be at least build up to some form a of climax) for any entertainment sport is a death knell. I voted 4sk pistol, since I miss the old CE days and hope NOT to see more AR in competitive (although I don't mind the gun itself in casual).

 

All I know is the BR starts during the beta made me yawn, and just seeing BR only starts is pretty yawn these days. It'll lead to the same thing, 8 people shooting each other with BRs and power weapons for 10 mins every game. Sure it's competitive, but may get boring both in visual and audio for spectators. Even League of Legends was getting pretty stale when it was only 2-3 champs being played in each role. Variety makes for nice eye candy in an eSports game, and this is what they're going for with Halo 5. Halo was always about fighting over map control and weapon control, I dont care if it's a sniper or DMR I want em fighting over as much as possible:) Also if it really sucks that bad they can always change it later, but I'm definitely interested in seeing how it works for this game. 

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Also @@Moa @@CyReN @@Saucey

 

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All I know is the BR starts during the beta made me yawn, and just seeing BR only starts is pretty yawn these days. It'll lead to the same thing, 8 people shooting each other with BRs and power weapons for 10 mins every game. Sure it's competitive, but may get boring both in visual and audio for spectators. Even League of Legends was getting pretty stale when it was only 2-3 champs being played in each role. Variety makes for nice eye candy in an eSports game, and this is what they're going for with Halo 5. Halo was always about fighting over map control and weapon control, I dont care if it's a sniper or DMR I want em fighting over as much as possible:) Also if it really sucks that bad they can always change it later, but I'm definitely interested in seeing how it works for this game. 

I fail to see how variety is more important than weapons with a higher skill gap.

 

Having BR being the secondary is much more exciting to watch than an AR.

 

Not to mention the stigma around AR starts is not good for the game. I mean, we have to face the facts these days. Twitch chat is unfortunately present in all Halo 5 tourneys due to it being its main viewing platform. Seeing people shit on the game for AR starts is going to bring down the excitement and foster an environment where people just shit on H5.

 

I see no scenario where having an AR in the HCS to start with is beneficial. Especially when the SMG is as god-awful OP as it is. 

 

The pistol is your go-to CQC weapon and the BR is your go to long range rifle. 

 

They can do whatever they want in other playlists. AR + Pistol, w/e. Even the pro's aren't too keen on AR starts from what I've seen on Twitter (minus FS, and even then it sounds like he's just making do/settling). 

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Can we please not talk politics in the Halo forum. This is why we need an unmoderated section on these forums. I don't want to read this garbage. 

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Can we please not talk politics in the Halo forum. This is why we need an unmoderated section on these forums. I don't want to read this garbage. 

Better than reading your angsty-teen-rage posts. 

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This is why we need an unmoderated section on these forums. 

We have one. It's called OT  :saucey:

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Better than reading your angsty-teen-rage posts. 

You seem to pay a lot of attention to me. You secretly have a man crush on me. Get a girlfriend. You're online too much

 

Also you support BR starts. The fuck out of here.

 

 

 

We have one. It's called OT   :saucey:

Yeah, but it's not as good as an unmoderated section like a lot of other forums have where people just go at it. It literally is the only gem missing from these forums. 

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I want the pistol to fulfill the medium ranged and CQC categories. 4SK, less range and the BR to be the "pistol". Go-to long range, accurate rifle, 4sk. 

 

I think I'd enjoy that the most. 

 

Also @@Moa @@CyReN @@Saucey

 

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We are working with our ad network to fix the problem.  It is very annoying.

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Yeah I dont know why people want to see automatics in the competitive scene. There isnt much skill involved and its very very boring seeing players melt other players with an AR/SMG. Im up for keeping the pistol as the main weapon and have BRs/DMRs scattered around the maps so players can pick and choose depending on what strat they are going to try and execute next.

I guess I am the only one who loved watching the AR and SMG in action.....

 

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You seem to pay a lot of attention to me. You secretly have a man crush on me. Get a girlfriend. You're online too much

 

Also you support BR starts. The fuck out of here.

 

 

 
 

Yeah, but it's not as good as an unmoderated section like a lot of other forums have where people just go at it. It literally is the only gem missing from these forums. 

lol

 

We are working with our ad network to fix the problem.  It is very annoying.

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Ok can we all agree on this, for the current build of Halo 5, for starting weapons

 

Pistol only > BR only.

 

So what is up for debate is the secondary.

1) no secondary

2) buff pistol with AR

3) different secondary

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Okay.

 

Why aren't the AR and SMG competitive?

Because they take no skill, yet have unlimited kills in them and kill times that contest the utility weapons at mid to close ranges.

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Ok can we all agree on this, for the current build of Halo 5, for starting weapons

 

Pistol only > BR only.

 

So what is up for debate is the secondary.

1) no secondary

2) buff pistol with AR

3) different secondary

I don't see why the pistol can't satisfy the CQC and medium range categories being 4SK with reduced range and having a BR for longer range battles to start with. 

 

The AR is damn good and could still be viable as a map pickup. If not, you have the SMG as the go-to map pick-up auto that seriously shreds. 

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