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  1. There is clearly a misunderstanding here unless you feel these two ideas are literally the same. Both fall under the "scrub mentality" but the selling point of it all really boils down to how the scrub will complain and cry about these mechanics, deeming them cheap and shunning player's skill. They will limit themselves and then look down upon all others who don't follow suit. Most importantly, they will refuse to actually resort to "cheap" tactics even if the win is on the line. They would lose with their pride and blame the game and still be convinced they are of a higher skill level. They might feel as if they have better aim and therefor are the better player no matter what. They might feel like the combos and links are more well defined than someone who is playing a reactionary button mashing game, even if they lose. There is little here that actually applies to me other than the fact that I choose not to use it for my own fun. I think it's much more fun to play the game without it. I have absolutely no problem with others that use it. I've won plenty of duels and FFA's without it. I've lost without using them. I've lost without my opponent using them. If it's a match I want to win and there was no agreement made then I am absolutely picking it up. Both parties are limiting themselves, one will absolutely refuse to give in and has no self awareness of the issue at hand. The other will give in if they have to and have self awareness of their choice. Hopefully this helps you see there can be a difference in outlook. Maybe I am wrong and this is purely black and white to you.
  2. Quad damage is one of the most over powered items I can think of. Nothing can really contest it other than running and if you get it in a FFA than you can walk away with a ridiculous number of kills. In a room full of noobs you can pick up 15+ kills. I don't see how that applies to snipes and rockets. Even when you are perfect with them you are less likely to have that big of a run compared to this. I figured more people were in agreement about quad being one of the most OP things in any shooter. 99% of my matches I ignored the item, even when others would use them. Even if I killed them I often just let it sit there, or I'd pick it up and camp myself until it wore off. I just didn't find it fun at all and didn't feel like I needed it to win. If I was in a serious duel and the other person picked it up I wouldn't be happy but I'm also not going to cry about it. It's part of the game that I am choosing to ignore because I feel its too easy, too cheap, and has no real counter. Despite how I feel about it mechanically I am still aware that I'm creating these artificial rules in my head of how to play the game. I can respect anyone who think an item is cheap and consciously does not use them as long as they are aware that it is a choice and not the games fault.
  3. If I am following correctly with this logic, Boom Boom Rocket is the worst game ever made?
  4. If you are in a duel in quake and have the better aim but can’t control red armor or mega health, is this a matter of poor design or poor strategy? I think halo is a pretty straight forward game in terms of decision making for competitive players. Players instinctively move off spawn to a better spot without spending much time to think about it. One of the more interesting aspects to me is when a player has many choices. That’s where chill out 2v2 plays so well. Every two minutes you make a choice of sacrificing an item to get a better one. So I don’t really get this feeling in other halos. Pit can sometimes give this feeling when all the timers are close to each other. Other than that it’s just a matter of map control and positioning which should be the simplest concept for a competitive halo player. Pushing with a teammate and team shooting is one of the easiest strategies to do and is incredibly effective since later games don’t offer much individual power for a player to win that 1v2.
  5. It's certainly a slippery slope. I really disliked the shield regen in Halo 3 and I'm guessing the counter play to that is the shield drainer but it's just not a cohesive mechanic. I know for a fact that they were directly influenced by shadowrun to the point where the H3 regeneration field was even labeled as Tree of Life in the code. I know H2's lunge mechanics are a bit forgiving and odd, but I thought there was a lot more depth there with the button combos compared to Halo 3's melee trade fest. To me that was one of the lamest and most boring aspects of the equipment. I don't even think you could throw a nade at their feet and pick them off in time unless I am not remembering correctly. I'd have to see it play out to know but I like the idea of a link gun. I thought it was great in UT but just worry about the cheese here with regenerating shields. I picture a juggernaut standing in the door way eating nades and shots while his teammate is safely away from nade spam, or camping a corner. Heals + close range weapon + camping = a lot of cheese. Sure this allows you to be mobile but I do wonder how often people choose to use this to push offensively rather than sit back. I do agree that heals often lead to passive and campy gameplay mostly. That's how it worked in Shadowrun but you could at least destroy them or throw AMG's at them. This would get rid of the tree than eat the magic of those camping was very risky. It was physically how you had to heal but required rotating around the map quickly as a counter.
  6. I forgot about locking threads for a cool-off. Like the MLG am threads that were people who just non stop talked shit to each other, but were actual competitive players going to events so it was pretty much just about the game and not personal out of spite. I remember when they tried out the shit talk thread too. I remember they used to edit posts and leave something in saying who edited and why, but that seems like a moderating nightmare.
  7. Lecturing on quake the forums like you have any experience let alone ability to beat outpost anyone is laughable. This is actually fun no wonder it's so hard to stop.
  8. thats a major yikes fam lmao. Its just an OPINION BRO lol like WOW. Big OOFs
  9. No way dude all those pesky upvotes that really ruin life here on the forums. Even cults can't stand them.
  10. Fair enough I didn't think it would be that hard for you to understand. I figured maybe it's a good refresher course since every few weeks we have some dumb argument that always has the same people arguing. So the goal of this talk is to finally put it all behind everyone, like a good person! Good job man you're a really nice guy. Shame on me for saying maybe it shouldn't get to this in the first place and that would have the same result of this talk. Apparently everyone here knows this but we just can't refrain from it. Honestly it's an attempt to help you and others out more than anything because I know in 2 weeks we'll be singing this same song and dance. You are right though I think everyone that reads this thread can put 2 and 2 together and see all this. Of course it's sarcastic and that must mean I'm clueless as if I have never posted on this hitscan/projectile debate before. Obviously the debate went south before that. I love how a clearly sarcastic post in you opinion is no different than personal insults. It's laughable you that you can take sarcasm and feel so attacked personally, and in clear two wrongs make a right fashion feel good about your posts. Feel free to insult me as much as you want. Feel free to explain to me why any of your insults would matter to me. I don't care that you dish them out, I care about the sheer stupidity that people are oblivious as to why others might not want to talk to them.
  11. Why should I be responding to you? I saw posts by multi and others that I thought did a pretty good job conveying some ideas I agree with. I saw the responses from all parties and at that point it was clear the discussion had steered far from being a level headed one. I'm using anyone's post who I feel is worthy of being ignored for a real discussion. I don't understand this two wrongs make a right mentality. I don't understand this pseudo moral high ground as if one party is just looking to solely discuss mechanics like adults and the other is dodging this opportunity like children. Feel free to look up any of my wall of texts. I'm happy to discuss ideas with people who want to do so in a level-headed way. I came into this thread at a time when that was long gone. It's just a question if you know whats happening and don't care, or are oblivious to it. I can't tell and you haven't said. This is the moral high ground thing right here. Each time I come into this thread is just sarcastic remarks, shit posts and arguments (by a lot of people). Then when it settles down it's this "I JUST WANT TO TALK HALO EVERYONE IS HATING ON MY OPINION". Like even right now it's turned from a discussion, to random fucking insults, to we just want to talk man. Look at this beautiful picture you are painting of yourself. You are a warrior who has survived countless insults and despite this you are still being called stubborn. You are a good person for being willing to address the issues but the other parties aren't. You feel the need bring up how you were raised to address a problem when arises. Yes, yes, you never started anything! You just wanted to talk man! Why is it so weird that nobody wants to talk when I just want to be a nice person? come on.. I don't think the concept is crazy, I think it coming from a person that often goes against what he is saying here is a little weird. It raises the question if you are even aware that this is happening or not. It seems like you are aware but you don't give a fuck because right now you are on the moral high ground looking good. I really don't know why it is so hard to see what I'm saying here.
  12. I thought it might help because it seems to be the concept you are missing here. It's almost as if none of it matters to you and you are confused as to why people are not willing to even take this chance. I get the two wrongs make a right kinda vibe this entire time. It's nice to extend on olive branch but you are standing on a pile of ashes from a burning bridge. Yeah, I'm sure this is still great and you still don't need me to repeat this but there's a difference in being oblivious to this and realizing but not caring about it at all and I can't tell the difference. Which one is it?
  13. Saying what, that you want a serious discussion? I get that you are saying it if that's the "it" is. What I'm saying is why should someone think your discussion is going to be mature based off of the posts? Just because someone else said so on everyone's behalf? As someone on the sidelines I don't exactly blame anyone who doesn't seem interested at this point. I don't think I'm grasping for straws here. You want to have a real talk like real people that's great but everyone can just dig through these last few pages and see for themselves. I read all the posts about the topic and I don't have the same conclusion as you. cH might want to discuss mechanics but for a man who has no issues with anyone he certainly was interested in throwing out insults. None of those insults were at me, but there is no way that is a guy I want to sit and talk with based off of the posts. Maybe he is completely different in a party than he is on the forums. That's also fair but for fucks sake don't act like that and expect people to be willing to engage outside of the forums. I think after a while people on the sidelines can tell what the lowest common denominator is.
  14. If that's not what you want then why are you contributing to it so much? I'm sure it is a pretty reasonable idea that people are skeptical about talking in a voice channel after reading the quality posts here. Why should someone be obligated or interested to engage after reading who they are engaging with? Court rooms and debates are cool. I love discussing mechanics. I don't see this whole moral high ground point of being adults after reading this entire discussion. If this is actually an attempt to have a real thoughtful mature discussion about mechanics that's cool but this invite is to a party that was burned down to the ground before it started.

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